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By HKPRO 1/15/98 (Updated slightly 2/99
and 11/2001)
Duncan Long is a prolific writer who
specializes in the kinds of books that are on sale at gun
shows. Not real high quality, but he really filled a niche
with this book, and was very astute marketing on his part.
There are tons of us HK fans out there, and we all want to
read about our favorite guns. Just not much to read. So this
is the most widely available book, and it really is good
overall. He does a great job of explaining how American LEGAL
machine gun ownership works, and examples of the main Class II
manufacturers' wares.
I am less than impressed with the
editing and typesetting in this work.
Bear in mind that most of what Duncan
writes about in this book is taken directly from HK catalogs
and promotional literature that was provided to him by HK.
This post is to point out some of the factual errors
that I am aware of. I won't get them all, and I may be
wrong myself. Be forewarned. If anyone who discovers any
errors on my part can correct me, I would appreciate it
greatly. I publish this not to try to dissuade you from buying
Duncan's book. All in all it is a must have for a serious HK
aficionado. Where possible, I will add facts that
I think are interesting too.
Here goes:
The picture on the cover is an HK53A3,
taken directly from a folio brochure. These folio brochures
are available for most all HK weapons, but are fairly rare in
America. I have most of them. Page 2, Column 2,
paragraph 3 spells names wrong: Says Theordor Koch, should be
Theodor (The German spelling for Theodore) It is Alex, not
Alexs Seidel, also. Same mistake in the city as stated below.
Page 3, the caption of the factory
picture should spell the city where HK is located as: "Oberndorf
am Neckar." Oberndorf on the Neckar (River). It is
not one word. Your P7s and P9s' say Oberndorf/N on the slide.
This is the above, abbreviated.
Page 8, Column 1, paragraph 2. "SARCO
imported semiauto versions..." It is SACO, not SARCO. Two
distinct and different companies.
Page 17, paragraph 1. "Though a red
marker..." It is actually white.
Page 17, column 2, paragraph 2:
"The 'three position group' is similar to the
Navy..." HK actually calls these the 0-1-3 group and
0-1-2 groups now.
Page 19, captions: If Duncan establishes
that the old style SEF group is that with a metal housing and
removable plastic grip, then the second picture down's caption
is wrong. "Known as the 'SEF group' this newer version of
the trigger assembly has the grip and frame molded into one
unit..." This picture is clearly of a metal SEF housing,
and the grip is one of two separate parts.
Bottom picture page 19: Big mistake. He
shouldn't even call this the newer style SEF frame. These are
ambidextrous frames. "It appears that this was just a
transitional style and it is seldom seen on any of Heckler and
Koch guns." This is a G41 trigger group, and is ALWAYS
seen on the G41. It was never offered any other way.
Granted, the G41 is now defunct, but Long has no idea about
this. Note: If the group had TWO holes in the rear for
pushpins, it would be either for an HK21E or HK23E belt fed
machine gun.
Both feature the non front pushpin
insertion point. (See page 51 for great shot of this point)
Page 20. All the above appears to be a
miscaption, since the identical caption is under the right
group for this comment. Here, it is true. But how would you
ever know?
Page 20, paragraph 2. ...,or automatic
(a number of red bullets inside an open ended
rectangle)..." It is always seven bullets. (Though true
when I originally wrote this, it is not true of the new HK UMP
.45 CAL SMG. The full auto selector markings on the UMP have
four red bullets in an open ended box. The G36 pictogram
selector markings have five bullets in an open ended red box
for the full auto selection. 2/11/99)
Page 2, bottom caption. Second sentence
of the caption: "The assembly eliminates barrel flex and
helps keep the front sight from rotating on the barrel."
I don't know where he got this, and I don't have any specific
information from HK to refute it. But nonetheless, I get the
feeling that he just made it up. I do understand how the
barrel is pressed into the receiver, and do know that the
cocking tube does not actually contact the front sight
assembly. Look REAL close at your rifles. The cocking tube
moves slightly. The pin in the receiver and the fact that the
barrels are pressed in under tons of pressure is what keeps
the front sight from turning.
Eliminates barrel flex? This is not
possible. Barrel flex can never be ELIMINATED, perhaps
changed, but not eliminated. You be the judge. Does this make
sense to you?
Page 23, the most infamous comment of
them all in this entire book: The upper caption: "Many G3
stocks have a mysterious "dohicky" on the left side
of the handguard. This loop stamping is actually a hook
designed to allow troops in the field to hang their rifles
from nails protruding from walls--a very useful field
expedient."
NOT TRUE!
By the way, for an unknown reason this
photo is reversed. As you can tell, he refers to the LEFT side
of the handguard, and this is clearly the right. See how the
cocking handle groove is also on the right? This clip is
for the three point sling. It is the optional attachment point
for the middle buckle that slides freely along the sling when
it is on the gun. Clipping this buckle to Duncan's "dohicky"
allows troops to position their rifles at port arms, using the
sling and not their arms. (See illustration of this on page
105, top right photo.) Perfect for parades and reviews,
etc. HK has confirmed for me that this is not true, and the
hole is for driving the rivet into the forearm. You COULD hang
your expensive rifle from a nail on a wall. Would you?
Page 24, lower left caption. Rear sight
photo. "Numbers indicate ranges in meters." Should
read HUNDREDS of meters. Minor point.
Page 26, Column 1, paragraph 3:
"...when the guns were imported and sold by SARCO and
later Heckler & Koch, Inc." Again, SACO, not SARCO.
Page 28, Column 1, paragraph 3:
"Like other models in the G3 series, the HK21 uses a
roller-block lock up rather than gas operation. Should read
roller-LOCK. Could be a typo, or maybe the publisher did not
want the line to read "roller lock lock up." Same
paragraph, BIG error: "Unlike the standard G3 and later
machine guns in the series, The HK21 fires from an open bolt
in the automatic mode (like the earlier CETME Modelo 58.) This
is completely untrue. I don't know about the CETME. I am not a
student of Spanish firearms. However, the HK21 series is
closed bolt functioning, period.
Very next paragraph: "The HK23 came
with an adaptor kit that allowed it to be converted to use the
G3 magazine." No, should be "an HK33 magazine."
Last paragraph on page 28: "The
MK21E (Export) version..." Must be a typo. Should be
"HK21E".
Page 29, column 2, last paragraph:
"(A linkless box feed mechanism is also available for the
.223/5.56mmNATO version of this rifle...)" While I don't
doubt that HK is capable of producing something like this, I
have never seen it referred to in any bonafide company
literature. I don't think it exists, or more importantly,
Duncan incorrectly describes it as being something that it is
not, later when describing the GR6 Belt fed MG. I will make
this distinction clearer later. (2/99--It does in fact exist,
and there has been very little written about it, but there is
a picture in the 1999 issue of Special Weapons for Military
and Police that shows a picture of the HK73, and clearly a
very unusual box that is captioned as a linkless feed system.
Page 31, column 2: These two paragraphs
are purely supposition on Duncan's part about sniper
preference. I would submit that REAL snipers are RARELY
ever in the need for suppressive fire if they are doing their
jobs correctly, and are most always going to prefer the bolt
to the semiauto. What he asserts is what companies like HK try
to even market for, that is the school of thought that
emphasizes the second and subsequent shots as more important
than the first. This is purely my opinion.
Page 32, Column 2, paragraph 2:
"The PSG1 sniper rifle comes with a tripod on which the
shooter can rest the foregrip of the rifle with the tripod's
top fitting into one of several rails cut into the lower side
of theforegrip."
While the cuts are there, they are for a
BIPOD, and not the precision tripod, manufactured by a company
named Garbini. The tripod top is a large U shape that does not
fit into anything.
P. 32. Second column: "The
trigger has a light pull with an overtravel boot."
There is no overtravel boot on the MSG90 or PSG1. He is
referring to the allen screw that holds the wide trigger shoe
on the trigger itself.
Page 33, Column 1, Paragraph 1:
"Originally the PSG-1 had walnut furniture; most
production models use plastic." Could be true, but I have
never seen any such information. Column 2 Paragraph 2:
"The scope mount system of the MSG90 accepts STANAG
equipment and is adjustable for cheek height and length of
pull." Obviously, bad editing. He is referring to
the stock as being adjustable for cheek height, etc.
Last paragraph on P.33 and first on page
34. Duncan theorizes that special belt feds with scopes and
accurized barrels that have semiauto capability make "a
multi-role sniper rifle and might be the shape ofthings to
come in the near future on the modern battleground." Pure
conjecture.
Page 35, Caption: "MSG3 with
G3-style handguard, G3 style front and rear sights for
emergency use if the scope is damaged." ONLY if you first
remove the scope from the gun. This STANAG scope mount does
not allow open sight usage when the scope is on the gun. A
minor point, but since he used the word emergency', I would
think that needs to be clarified.
Pages 40 and 41. All captioned photos.
Several are wrong. Page 40, bottom: "Vollmer Model 11'
with short barrel and old style SEF trigger group." You
can read the receiver on this gun. Clearly a Model 51.
Remember, the Model 11 is box fed
version of the belt fed 21. On guns from HK, the box feed is
removable. On the Vollmer model 11s, the box feed is
permanent. Next page, top caption: "Vollmer standard
Model 11 in its sniper rifle attire. Trigger group shown here
is newer SEF style with "erector set' ribs on its
side." This entire caption is wrong. I can considerably
speed things up here by putting the right caption with the
rightpicture, but there are still errors beyond that!
Top caption goes with middle picture.
Bottom caption goes with top picture.
You would then assume that the middle
caption goes with bottom picture, except that the bottom
picture is of a model 21, belt fed, not a standard model 11.
Then there is the typo of, "old-style DEF..." Should
be SEF.
Page 42, caption. Almost fine except
they meant to type"HK21" instead of
"KK21."
Page 47, Column 1, paragraph 2: "As
one might expect, this gun makes a noticeable flash and noise
signature that are only slightly abated, even with the new
duck-bill, open ended flash hider..." This is simply not
true. I have fired both versions, and the four prong flash
hider almost completely eliminates muzzle flash. One big
boomer though. Next paragraph: "Two models of handguards
are available for the HK53...slimline and newer guns most
often displayed with the "target" handguard with the
appearance of the handguards being nearly identical to those
of the MP5 guns." "Target" is the wrong
name for this handguard. Should be "wide" forearm.
Page 47, Column 2, paragraph 2:
"Recently a new and yet undesignated version of the HK53
has been added to the Heckler and Koch lineup that is capable
of firing standard .223 (book says 2.23 but I amnitpicking)/5.56mm
cartridges or frangible ammunition that has limited
penetration/greater wounding potential." This is not a
correction but a clarification. This is a frangible ammunition
adapter that is available for all HK53s. Put it on the front
of the gun and you are good to go with frangible. It is not a
special 53 model.
Page 51, captions: More bad typing. The
closeup of the G41 receiver is captioned, "Close view of
the right side of the G451 receiver. G41. Next is a toughie.
No one except a real HK junkie would get this: "German
soldier with G41-TGS." This is not a German soldier, but
Günter Schäfer, an HK engineer, who is frequently seen in HK
literature demonstrating the guns "in the field."
Page 52, Column 1, paragraph 2:
"The G41 has a number of accessories available for it
including scope mounts, bipod and bayonet (all standard
Heckler & Koch designs that fit other of their G3
rifles.)" No they won't!
The G41 scope mount and bipod are NOT
compatible with the G3, HK33 53, 91, 93 etc. The scope mount
IS compatible with the HK21E and 23E belt feds, but that is
it. Bipod is unique to that gun. G41 is no longer produced, by
the way. He corrects this error with a caption on page
99.
Page 54, Column 2, paragraph 5: "F.J.
Vollmer & Company also offers several models of chopped
HK-94s revamped and artfully refinished to HK53
specifications..." HK94s are not chopped to make HK53s,
HK93s are.
Page 55, only paragraph. Duncan can't
predict the future, but the G11 rifle died shortly after this
book was written.
Page 57, Chapter 4. 7.62x39 caliber
rifles. Suffice it to say that the literature is there to
prove HK intended to make them, and Duncan is essentially
right about most of this page. The guns exist in literature,
and I don't have a definitive answer, but I don't think there
has EVER been a factory HK32 of any variant on this side of
the ocean. I don't know that one has ever been seen anywhere.
Interesting!
Page 64 Caption. Appears to be the
accidental combination of two captions. Most of this caption
belongs on page 69. Also, of the photographs of the guns
on page 64, the fixed stock MP5 at the top is labeled as an
MP5A2, when the presence of the burst group indicates that it
should be labeled MP5A4.
Page 66 bottom caption. I don't know how
Duncan tells early from late versions of the HK94, but the one
on page 66 has no optional barrel shroud and forward grip. Got
it right on the next page, though.
Page 67, caption, bottom:
MP5SD22(Center) Another typo! Fire the typesetter! MP5SD2!
Remember, when correctly designating the
SD series by which stock it has, the "A" is omitted.
It is not "MP5SDA2 or MP5SDA3." It is
"MP5SD2" and MP5SD3."
Page 70, column 1, paragraph 2:
"These new trigger group guns were first designated with
an N' suffix which has since been replaced by an A4' and A5'
suffix." Not true. All still exist. N for Navy, and A4
and A5 for fixed and retractable stock guns that have burst
groups on them.
Page 71, line drawing caption: This gun
exists, as the SMG2, and is covered extensively and correctly
by Frank James in "Project 64."
Page 72, first column, at the bottom,
dealing with SD variants: MP5SD4 (Fixed stock,
silencer), MP5SD5, (retracting stock, silencer), and MP5SD6
(stockless buttcap, silencer.) These are reversed.
The MP5SD4 is stockless buttcap, SD5 is fixed stock, and SD6
is retractable stock. All feature the silencer, thus the
"SD" designation.
Page 76, Column 1, first line:
"Jonathan Arthur Ciener also created and registered a
number of auto sears just before the machine gun ban of
1989." The machine gun ban was in May, 1986, not 1989.
Page 79, bottom caption: Press photo
showing the MP5K-PDW in use by an air crewman..." That's
no aircrewman! That's Jim Schatz, head of fed ops at HK Inc.,
in Sterling.
Page 83, column 1, paragraph 2: Another
typo--"MP5SK's silenced barrel..." MP5SD!
Page 83, column 2, titled
"Bayonets." This whole paragraph is ridiculous, and
appears to have been pulled from the nether regions of the
anal cavity...
Page 86, caption. "HK23A1 on HK
tripod..." That is obviously .308 ammo, and therefore the
gun is really an HK21A1.
Page 87, column 1, paragraph 1:
Commentary about how using an ejection port buffer puts most
of your brass in a neat little pile, except for the occasional
flyer, asserted at about "97 percent" of the time.
Yeah right. You HK rifle owners out there sound off! The brass
may be in a little pile, but that pile is in Vancouver!
Page 90, Column 1, paragraph 2: "A
grenade launcher attachment that replaces the flash hider on
MP5 guns is available from HK; this unit is easily screwed
into place on the newer guns having flash hiders." Huh?
The grenade launcher, pictured on the next page, is quick
detach, just like the flash hider. How do you put the grenade
launcher on over the flash hider??
P. 104 Column 2, Paragraph 4:
"The best solution is to fire heavy subsonic 9mm bullets
from one of the silenced MP5SD submachine guns."
NO, NO, NO. The worst thing in the world is to fire
subsonice ammuniton in an MP5SD. The barrel ports drop
the speed of supersonic rounds for you, by about 200 fps.
Putting subsonic ammunition in an SD makes it not only
unreliable, but the world's most expensive .380. The mv
for subsonic would be about 700 fps. This is true for
muzzle mounted suppressors on standard MP5s, but NOT the SD.
P.105, Picture of an MP5K with
no sights and a 4-position trigger group. The caption reads,
"Vollmer Model MP5K shown in its A1 version with the
more recently designed 4-position Group." If the gun has no
sights and the 4-position group, its designation would be MP5K
A5, not MP5K A1.
P. 105 "STOCKS"
"...(with most stocks being interchangeable with those
designed for the MP5 series of guns--except K models.)"
Not true. While they will fit, the buffer system
in the rifle series stocks is not the same for the MP5 series.
P. 106. Stock Photo is for an HK
93/33/53, not MP5. Note convex buttpad. Photo of
buttcap is only for MP5, not HK33.
P. 108, first paragraph. "And
for much the same reason, the weight of pull necessary to trip
the trigger is also rather high to U.S. tastes. Can
someone tell me the organization in the U.S. dedicated to
heavy trigger pulls? It is to pass drop tests, not
because Americans like heavy trigger pulls.
P. 109, top of page: "--fire
assemblies shouldn't be placed on semiauto guns since the bolt
carrier won't accomodate the auto-fire parts."
Nonsense. The statement may be good legal advice for
someone without NFA registration, but to say that the bolt
carrier won't accomodate the parts shows no understanding of
the function principles of the HK series.
Well that is about it. Whew! This took
some time. I did not realize how many problems that there
actually were with this book. I glossed over all the
aftermarket accessories in the back, and did not mess with the
section on lasers either. I probably missed some things, but I
am worn out.
What depresses me about all the errors
in this book is that there are so many of you, and those of
you who are reading this and taking it for granted as
being right.
Ownership of HK firearms has made me
appreciate the excellence in engineering that is present at
that company. I know that even if you only own one HK
firearm, you are still enamored with the company, and want to
know more. I think Duncan sold the many of these books.
He saw my comments and agreed with them. He mostly blamed, and
probably rightly so, the editors who wanted to throw the book
together and make some money. Duncan is a great guy and a good
sport. My intent here is to strive for factual accuracy,
and not to denigrate Duncan Long.
I still recommend the book.
There is so little information out there, that I guess even
incorrect information is better than no information.
Thanks for reading!
--HKPRO
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