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    Default New EU Gun-Law via "IMCO" passed the Parliament.

    Today the IMCO proposal for EU Gun "Reform" has passed the Parliament successfully.

    This Red-Green disgrace of a law will now be put in effect within the next 12 months.

    The actual text can be read here:

    REPORT on the proposal for a directive of the European Parliament and of the Council amending Council Directive 91/477/EEC on control of the acquisition and possession of weapons - A8-0251/2016

    What do you guys think?

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    Is there a short version that sums it up? I gave up after a few minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwillHK View Post
    Is there a short version that sums it up? I gave up after a few minutes.
    Sure, let me try, forgot that US members are not "heavily in the discussion"

    "The acquisition and possession of firearms should only be permitted in respect of persons who have good cause."
    There, not a right to have arms, but a privilege when proven good cause.

    Member States should ensure that an effective system is implemented for monitoring the acquisition and possession of firearms.
    Central monitoring and registration.

    For the purposes of this Directive, "part" shall mean any element or replacement element specifically designed for a firearm and essential to its operation, including a barrel, frame or receiver, slide or cylinder, bolt or breech block, and any device designed or adapted to diminish the sound caused by firing a firearm.
    For the purposes of this Directive, "essential component" shall mean the barrel, frame, the receiver, including both upper and lower receivers, where appropriate, slide, cylinder, bolt or breech block which, being separate objects, are included in the category of the firearms on which they are or are intended to be mounted.
    From Bolt+Barrel as regulated item, this was greatly expanded. Including previously unregulated uppers+lowers.

    Member States shall establish a monitoring system, including the assessment of relevant medical and psychological information in accordance with national law, which may be on a continuous or non-continuous basis, for the acquisition and possession of firearms, and shall withdraw authorisations if any of the conditions on the basis of which the acquisition or possession was permitted are no longer met.
    The maximum duration of an authorisation shall not exceed five years, unless Member States have implemented a system of continuous monitoring as referred to in the first subparagraph of Article 5(2). The authorisation may be renewed if the conditions on the basis of which it was granted are still fulfilled.
    Monitoring of "legal owners", five year max duration between checks.


    1. Member States shall take measures to ensure that automatic firearms converted into semi-automatic firearms from ... [the date of entry into force of this Amending Directive] cannot be reconverted into automatic firearms.
    Ban of Full Auto weapons

    7a. Semi-automatic firearms with centre fire percussion, and loading devices, with one or more of the following characteristics:



    (a) long firearms (i.e. firearms that are originally intended to be fired from the shoulder) that can be reduced to a length of less than 60cm without losing functionality by means of a folding or telescoping stock;



    (b) firearms which allow the firing of more than 21 rounds without reloading, if a loading device with a capacity exceeding 20 rounds is part of the firearm or is inserted into it;



    In order to acquire a loading device, a corresponding firearm authorisation must be presented at the time of acquisition.”

    De-Facto ban of:
    - under 60cm(2ft) total lenght SBR
    - mags exceeding 20 rounds
    - firearms license required for magazine purchase
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    Covers EU members, only? That's bad news for a lot of shooters in those countries.
    Who else thinks the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms is a convenience store?

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    Maybe it's time to topple some governments over there.
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    Say what you want about the NRA, but it's one of the few things standing between the U.S. citizens and a draconian law like we see here.
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    So, EU gun laws are becoming more like ones in the US are currently or have been in the past? SBR, AW mag ban, "military" features etc...

    It looks like demilled, or decoration, guns will be hardest hit.

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    the EU is a sham, at least the Brit's had the common sense to pull out of that train wreck. Sadly however, they already had gun laws that make this look like a poor attempt at gun laws....
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebStrands View Post
    Say what you want about the NRA, but it's one of the few things standing between the U.S. citizens and a draconian law like we see here.
    This. Very. Much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by baljar View Post
    Today the IMCO proposal for EU Gun "Reform" has passed the Parliament successfully.

    This Red-Green disgrace of a law will now be put in effect within the next 12 months.

    The actual text can be read here:

    REPORT on the proposal for a directive of the European Parliament and of the Council amending Council Directive 91/477/EEC on control of the acquisition and possession of weapons - A8-0251/2016

    What do you guys think?
    baljar I'm sorry to see this for you all. Will anything be grandfathered? Is it for future purchases or is it retroactive so that they will confiscate items already in civi hands?


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