My MKE MP5 SF and MP5K-PDW SF SBRs

[Glock_2_HK]

I was initially skeptical when the MKE guns were announced; but intrigued by the idea of near HK quality with none of the guilt.

I bit the bullet and bullet and bought one of each pistol. The pistols started out dead stock and have been slowly upgraded.

The PDW went to Ghillie to have the MKE bbl swapped for a HK contract PDW Navy style barrel. This was a great upgrade for use with my Trident. I was worried about the quality of the POF made bbls, but Adam @ HKparts.net told me they were top quality and so I grabbed the last one. The full-size merely had the bbl cut down, threaded by a local smith, and a US made 3 lug added. Both run great surpressed (but I did have to buy the correct locking peice for the PDW).

My plan was always to file Form 1s on both guns. Having a SP89 I knew that the gun was not that much to shoot without a stock.

They have been done for a few months now and each have about 1.5k rounds down the tube. I’ve shot a mix of Monarch (cheap ammo from Academy), WWB, Ranger-T 147gr HP, 124gr NATO, and a few other odds and ends. Neither gun has had any problem with ANY ammo I’ve fed it. The one issue was when my friend did not properly seat the magazine (his first time shooting a HK type long gun).

I’ve added some replacement parts to the guns. This was totally unneeded, but I felt like doing so. Both guns have had HK German F bolt heads added as well as HK semi carriers. I WANT TO STRESS THAT THESE CHANGES WERE NOT NEEDED, MERELY WANTED BY THE END USER (ME). I also swapped out the MKE trigger groups and lowers and replaced them with a SP89 housing on the PDW and a Navy style housing on the full-size. The guns both run great in factory configuration. I just wanted to add as many of the HK modernizations possible (which MKE likely doesn't have a license to produce). I added a peep sight to the PDW to replace the castle sight it shipped with. I added a Aimpoint on a B&T rail to the PDW and considering doing the same for the full-size. I have a HK A3 stock on the way for the fullsize. I also added the required 922r parts to stay legal. I added this disclaimer to ensure no one on the board is too upset with me.

I think these are great SEMI shooters and recommend the PISTOL version to anyone looking for a MP5 type gun that runs right out of the box and is comparable in quality to HK. When/if the next shipment comes in I am considering having a SD and a SMG-PK conversion done by RDTS and Ghillie.

Conclusion: (near) HK quality at a fraction of the price. It isn't quite fair to call these guns "clones"; prob. more accurate to call them licensed copies. You cannot go wrong with the MKE pistols for a semi SBR build. DO NOT buy if you want a sear gun. Another bummer is the need to replace enough parts with US parts for legal compliance. This can be done pretty cheaply (i.e. under $350). There is a manufacturer (PTR) with HK contract tooling. I had great luck with their semi trigger pack, sear, hammer, and trigger as well as their pistol grip.

Note for new members: remember to stay 922(r) compliant by adding US parts. Here is a great place to get 4 or 5 922r parts depending on your gun type: http://scorpion-arms.com/cart.php?m=..._detail&p=2074).






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*both guns meet all 922r requirments.





Full-size gun broken down:


Trigger Group and Pistol grip:



Reverse side of Trigger Group


I'd break down the PDW for y'all, but the rear pushpins are a pain to get out. Maybe tonight.

[grzechotnik]

Can You make more photos especially of PDW?

[farmdog]

That is a great report to hear. I too was skeptical when I first heard about the MKE's.

[Glock_2_HK]

What area would you like more pics of?

[retrodog]

What kind of 922R compliance parts did you use?

[AGG]

Those are extremely nice!!!

Tony

[Glock_2_HK]

This post was in reply to a now deleted post in which a member mentioned serious problems with two MKE guns he had. Not sure why he deleted it.

I'm sorry to hear that you have had bad luck with two of the guns. Did you contact ATI? Either you are very unlucky or I am very lucky. The buyer will have to make the call. I am buying two more if that means anything (once there are more in country).

I can only speak about the two guns that I own... They are at or near HK quality. Much like my SAR is at or near HK quality. I have compared them very closely to my 94 and 89 and it is difficult to see much of a difference. The reason I say "near" instead of at is due to the 1st gen. bolt, odd finish, and the sear block. I fixed all these "problems" except the sear block as I swapped for the "F" bolt and Ghillie refinished my guns when he did the work on them.

[JeepGuy79]

very nice!!!

[abogado]

You got a first generation bolt? They normally come with action three bolt. I've seen a few and have owned one for nearly three years now and mine and all others seen have action three bolt.
Your two look great. Congratulations. Keith.

I'm sorry to hear that you have had bad luck with two of the guns. Did you contact ATI? Either you are very unlucky or I am very lucky. The buyer will have to make the call. I am buying two more if that means anything (once there are more in country).

I can only speak about the two guns that I own... They are at or near HK quality. Much like my SAR is at or near HK quality. I have compared them very closely to my 94 and 89 and it is difficult to see much of a difference. The reason I say "near" instead of at is due to the 1st gen. bolt, odd finish, and the sear block. I fixed all these "problems" except the sear block as I swapped for the "F" bolt and Ghillie refinished my guns when he did the work on them.

[brcampbe]

I have one and is it very nice as well. I have the K version, everything is perfect on it. Now that I just bought a Fleming Sear, I plan on selling it. I just wish they didn't have that block in them!