C93 compared to HK 93

[Blitzkrieg]

While I plan to get a HK sub gun at some point, with a little cherry picking and work I find my C93 to be a great shooter/entry level gun to the roller lock world. After some minor fitting, the MKE mags work just fine and come in at about 25 bucks. With the cheap base price it leaves a lot of room to make it your gun without effecting collector value, and as a gun guy it made for a fun project to learn about the HK's design.

Best deal I can find on MKE mags is about $28 if I buy an 8 pack.. where you gettin' em for $25 ?

[Blitzkrieg]

Having a great gun and not shooting it is like not having sex with your playmate girlfriend so you can save her for the next guy.

Unless you are saving her as an inheritance to a son

[Blitzkrieg]

Shattered I moved to OR in September and there is like one range in the whole state that allows F/A firearms, all the rest of them are Fudd clubs :) , no full auto and not even rapid firing. Talk about a big change from AZ. But there are plenty of spots out in the woods to go shooting so not a big problem.

I am in the Olympia area of WA State and have rural land on the Olympic Peninsula where we can shoot

[6500rpm2]

Blitzkrieg-check hkspecialiststore.com, they seem to have an endless supply. As for the OP, only HK has HK quality control, but a gun with a lot of factory HK parts that's properly built can be a hell of a lot of fun. I'd expect to just be able to buy a HK93 and go blasting with no issue, with a C93 my expectations are not so high.

[Shattered Mind]

Unless you are saving her as an inheritance to a son

That would be... strange.

[travelinscout]

I shoot what I have, why else have them. But I will say, I have a Vector V93 that runs like a top!

[HKaltwasser]

I own a German HK 93, but really do not like to shoot it, for reasons of wear, and such. I have heard the whole range of C93 comments, probably mostly from people who do not own one, but have heard..... I would like to hear from a few people who actually own one, and comment on reliabilty, accuracy, and fit and finish, etc, etc. Just need some first hand info. Also, how much are they new, and nice used, and is there another alternative clone to Century Arms? Thanks.

Fit & finish varies from builder. Accuracy is pritty good. Realiability on my first one was perfect but the gap had slipped to.002 so it went back. I wouldn't pay over 500.00 and you can get them from time to time on GB for 450.00, what I paid for mine. Mine has been some hassles with century but at 450.00 , I really can't complain. Glad I bought it, would buy another. I say go for it. Once these are gone, builds through Vector or other will be 1,200 plus, so it's worth the risk IMO. HK33 parts kits will soon be in the neiborhood of 450.00 and you get a receiver and barrel with the c93. GO FOR IT!

[HKaltwasser]

Best deal I can find on MKE mags is about $28 if I buy an 8 pack.. where you gettin' em for $25 ?

Hkspecialist used to have them for 23.00 but are 25.00 now. HK Specialist - Product Display
You have to dremel a little out of the mag catch area on his. The RTG mags come already done. This takes a metter of seconds to do with a dremel.

[Nato308]

I have had several HK93's and a few C93's, accuracy depends on the gun. I only have one HK 93 now, sold the other HKs due to the pattern spread at 100 yds. Have a couple C93's, all but one of the Century guns group better than most of the HK's I have owned. The Century guns are put together with what they have, three of the four I have handled needed to have the rollers replaced. One had no clearance for the bolt to carrier and would jam every fifth round or so. One came with over sized rollers and needed stock rollers so it would not pound your shoulder every time you pulled the trigger. All came with magazine wells that were a millimeter or so too short causing problems with magazines not wanting to fit into the well or lock into place. The mag wells can be "stretched" so that all mags will fit into the mag wells. All the century guns I have seen needed the inside tip of the mag catch ground slightly so that all mags would lock up properly, the mag wells being a millimeter or two off from the mag catch placement causes the tip of the mag catch to ride on the raised portion on the side of the magazine and not lock the mag in place. Both original HK steel and MKE plastic mags would not lock properly into the Century guns before this fix. Remove the mag catch from the gun and use a Dremel tool with a stone or sanding drum to angle the inside tip of the mag catch, mainly towards the top of the tip, angled to about 1/16 th inch from the tip of the catch. When you remove the mag catch you can see that the top of the inside is flat and can judge how much needs to be ground from the tip. By inserting a mag into the mag well you can see how much the catch hole is off compared to the mag, grind a little from the forward tip of the catch and check the fit with a magazine inserted. With a new unmodified steel or MKE plastic mag you will be able to tell when the catch goes all the way down. This is a quick permanent fix that will not be seen from the outside of the gun and will not be noticed without really looking. I think it is better to have a gun that will accept any magazine made for the gun rather than modifying individual magazines so they will work in a particular weapon. Locking rollers can be had cheap, easy to change, and are no reason to send a gun back. The only big mistake in buying a Century Arms gun is buying one with the cocking tube resting on the inside of the front sight triple circle, no shot to shot accuracy. You can check this on an HK roller lock style weapon by seeing if the barrel will flex up and down without the end of the cocking tube touching the inside of the front sight circle. HK's are made so the barrel free floats inside the hand guard and you should be able to flex the barrel and hand guard separately in all directions without touching. You can take off the bayonet adapter from the front sight to make sure your cocking tube is centered and not contacting the front sight triple circle. If it is touching, the tip of the cocking tube can be carefully bent away from the inside of the front sight circle without the bending being seen from the outside. C93's are not fitted as nicely as HK93's but for the money and a little work, they can be a reliable and accurate rifle.