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    Question USP Barrel Weights

    Kind of curious as to why there's only one company that makes barrel weights for the USP's?

    I know they aren't a huge and hot commodity but you would think someone in the US would be making these as well.

    My best friend owns a machine shop and I have been thinking about knocking off the Merkle weights and selling them for about half what Merkle wants for them.

    Would anyone be interested?
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    I like the idea but you may want to take a look at the last guy who tried to make weights (match weights, not the ones for elite and expert you seem to be proposing).

    It is somewhere in the HK Talk section of the forum.

    That aside a clone merkle weight on a USP Elite would be pretty cool.

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    I am, one for my Elite .45 and one for my Elite 9mm, and I might condsider one for my Expert .45 as well

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    10-4.

    The only dissapointing part is that Merkle won't ship to the US.

    I just got an email from Sylvia this morning and they don't do any business with US customers apparently.

    I need to get my hands on a set of used weights before I can continue. I have a wanted add posted, hopefully someone will throw me an offer on their weight.


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    Blame the import laws. A Form 6 must be done and approved for any gun PART brought into the USA where the wholesale value of the item is $100 or more.
    And where are you going to find the extended barrels for guns like the Expert and Elite. The barrel needs to extend to the end of the weights or frame damage could occur with continued use. That is why the Match has a 6.02 inch barrel on a standard length slide. You do not need an extra 50 fps for bullseye match shooting and you don't get a longer sight radius. Jarvis does a maximum length of 6 inches and I don't know what EFK's max is, but you would need at least 6.8 inch barrel for an Expert and a 7.6 inch barrel for the Elite if you use a HK length weight.
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    Big Bore, we are not talking about recreating HK Match series weights. This would be a knock-off of the Merkle weight which does not require any modification to the slide/barrel. It simply attaches to the accessory rail and extended up underneath the slide/barrel of the Expert and Elite, adding weight to the front of the pistol.

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    No hits on my wanted ad.... This could prove tough to get my hands on!

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    My mistake.
    Before you go much further it might help you to understand why you might not be getting any hits. The Match pistol with those 3/4 pound weights could not be given away here in the states and that was why they were discontinued from importation. Then six months later, TR I and then TR II came out and everyone and their grandmother had to have a Match pistol (talk about bad timing on HK's part). If people were making Match clones just to have a pistol like LC, then they would want the real deal or at least look like the real deal, not something close, so that might be hurting interest. The guy who was cloning the Match weights had a lot of interest but it seemed to have fizzled out.
    The other thing is that the 3/4 pound weight hanging off the frame ruins the balance of the weapon. It makes it so muzzle heavy as to be a joke. For people who actually want to carry and use their pistol, those match weights are a short lived love affair. It took me exactly one box of ammo to take mine off and retire them to the HK memorabilia box.
    Those weights on the pistol are good for one use and one use only, bullseye target shooting. If you are using your pistol for any kind of run and gun, those weights really slow down the handling of the pistol. Quick handling is not needed or wanted in Bullseye shooting, just rapid recoil recovery and for that the weights excel. But for every other use, they pretty much suck.
    While the Merkle type weights get around the need for the longer barrel, they still will alter the balance of the pistol, although not as badly as the HK Match weight since they are not hanging out there in space off the end of the frame. They do not increase accuracy one iota and they slow down multiple target acquisition for the run and gun crowd. But find yourself bullseye shooters using HKs and you will sell them. They work a hundred times better than those old Quick-Comps that HK made for a while that predated the Match.

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    Thanks for the response Big Bore. I actually use my Expert for exactly that purpose, bullseye shooting. Thus my interest in acquiring and or recreating some weights if anyone else is interested.

    How does the weight attach to the rail? I have not found many detailed pictures of the Merkle weight.

    Do you by chance know anyone that would have one and be willing to let go of it?

    Thanks!!


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    I assume it attaches like the HK weights do. They have a section of the weight that goes around the trigger guard as well as two bolts that hold the halves together, clamping them into the rail groove as well as around the trigger guard. The section around the trigger guard keeps the weights from shifting forward during recoil. The HK system is pretty rock solid so I would think Merkle would duplicate their attachment system rather than reinventing the wheel. From the Merkle weights pictures I looked at this morning I would think they attach the same way. I don't know of anyone who actually has the Merkle weight due to the import headaches of getting it here legally.
    For bullseye shooting you will find the weights to be great.

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