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    Shot some 9mm Speer 124 gr +P Gold Dot Short Barrel yesterday.

    I'm totally unimpressed, most inaccurate ammo I've ever shot.

    My wife and I both shot our new 9mm HK P2000 SK today at 10 yards.

    We were shooting 3-4" groups with the following:

    50 rds. Winchester Nato Q4318 124 gr ammo (Close to +P pressure).
    25 rds. Remington 124 gr +P Golden Saber
    50 rds. Speer 124 gr Gold Dot (standard pressure).

    However, when we shot 20 rds. of Gold Dot 124 gr +P Short Barrel our groups opened way up to 8".

    WTF?

    If this had happened to me alone, I'd blame myself but we both had the same experience shooting this ammo.

    (FWIW, my wife is a fairly accomplished handgun shooter in her own right).

    I'll stick with regular Gold Dot, +P Gold Dot, +P Golden Saber or +P HST for carry.

    Has anyone had a similar experience with the Short Barrel Gold Dot?

    My SK sure didn't like it.
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    I tried some too but didn't like it because it seemed to generate much more muzzle jump than my usual Hornady TAP round and I couldn't shot as quickly with the Gold Dot.
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    I haven't noticed that, and unless the ammo was jacked up/way out of spec I can't believe that ammo could be the cause of it.

    When my groups open up, it's because I'm not paying attention to what I'm doing......most of the time from being tired by the end of the session and needing a break. I've never noticed an accuracy difference, at all, between any of my 6 pistols with regards to over 20 different types of ammunition. I only do practical shooting, and never benchrest my pistols which is the reason. The primary factor in the accuracy of a pistol is the shooter, not the ammo unless you're bench-resting in which can actually detect the minuscule(tenths of an inch) differences in performance. For a group to open up 100% is quite unusual.

    In my opinion, either something was wrong with the ammo/gun or you just weren't up to the task at the time you shot it. What you described is not normal for Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p SB.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TGS View Post
    I haven't noticed that, and unless the ammo was jacked up/way out of spec I can't believe that ammo could be the cause of it.

    When my groups open up, it's because I'm not paying attention to what I'm doing......most of the time from being tired by the end of the session and needing a break. I've never noticed an accuracy difference, at all, between any of my 6 pistols with regards to over 20 different types of ammunition. I only do practical shooting, and never benchrest my pistols which is the reason. The primary factor in the accuracy of a pistol is the shooter, not the ammo unless you're bench-resting in which can actually detect the minuscule(tenths of an inch) differences in performance. For a group to open up 100% is quite unusual.

    In my opinion, either something was wrong with the ammo/gun or you just weren't up to the task at the time you shot it. What you described is not normal for Speer Gold Dot 124gr +p SB.
    I agree and that's what puzzles me.

    We shot about 25 rds of the Q4318 to warm up and switched to the Short Barrel (with above stated results) and finished the range session with the other ammo with decent results for folks in their mid 50's.

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    The 115gr +P+ Gold Dots are my carry loads, very accurate for me.
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    What I've written about is the Short Barrel Gold Dot 124 gr. +P ammo.

    Speer makes 9mm ammo in standard and +P pressures. They also make Short Barrel ammo.

    I'm a big fan of Speer Gold Dot in regular and +P pressures, it runs great in all my pistols. It's accurate and reliable.

    It's the Short Barrel ammo that was not accurate for me and another experienced shooter.

    BTW, the Speer website shows no 115 gr. +P+ ammo, FWIW.

    Here's a link to their site. http://www.speer-ammo.com/ballistics/ammo.aspx

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    I've never had accuracy issues with the Speer Short-Barrel loads, in 124gr. +P or 180gr.

    A single 20rnd. box is a small sample really. It's difficult to tell whether it was unfamiliar ammunition in a new unfamiliar gun, shooter fatigue or actually defective ammunition.

    If you've found something that doesn't work for you and your pistol then don't use it. It was probably worth the price of the box of ammo to find that out.
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    I like Corbon 115 DPX + P shoot straight for me just my .02 cents


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    I've used Speer Gold Dot Short Barrel 124 gr.+P and got results comparable to my practice ammo (115 gr. JHP), but I'm not expecting target accuracy for either. For that pistol, and the way I shoot it, a five inch circle at seven yards is satisfactory. That tightens up when I take more time, but it's not a "bullseye practice" gun. It sounds like your conditions were more rigorous than mine, but I only shoot that ammo once every year or so, to assure myself that the gun will still feed it with 100% reliability. It's far too expensive for me to use it for practice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by murfdog View Post
    I like Corbon 115 DPX + P shoot straight for me just my .02 cents
    I second Murfdog's opinion.
    I love the DPX rounds too!

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