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    Hi, Anything special I should know before dissassembly for internal lock removal?
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    Just curious. Why remove it? I have or had many HK pistols with the lock (including a USP Tactical .45AA). They came unlocked, I checked to be certain they were unlocked before racking the slide for the first time, and I simply put the key away! I don't even remember the lock is there until I read a post about it. They don't come loose and lock up like the S&W internal locks. They don't really do anything but sit there. Just my thinking. Others may differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bentonville View Post
    Just curious. Why remove it?
    my paranoia. I remove them from any gun. After they are removed, my brain is peaceful.

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    Has there ever been a documented case of the internal lock in a HK setting itself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by razerface View Post
    my paranoia. I remove them from any gun. After they are removed, my brain is peaceful.
    And yet one more reason I quit buying used guns. It is physically impossible for the lock to go on by itself. The chances are greater that the firearm will never function again after the attempted removal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SIGtrarian View Post
    And yet one more reason I quit buying used guns. It is physically impossible for the lock to go on by itself. The chances are greater that the firearm will never function again after the attempted removal.
    nothing is physically impossible,

    buy all new? good, more used ones for me,,,

    The chances may be greater if YOU do it, but I assure you the gun will fire and function correctly when I am done.

    And yet one more reason I don't post on gun forums much. I ask a simple question,,,,,,,,,,

    never mind. It looks to be a simple thing I shouldn't even have asked about. My fault. I just thought it would be nice to have a conversation.

    See ya all
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    Quote Originally Posted by razerface View Post
    nothing is physically impossible,
    ...except for a USP magically locking itself. I meant no offense. What a person does to their own firearm is no ones business, but whenever someone mentions disabling a safety, especially one that has absolutely no effect on function if left alone, it hits a raw nerve with me. People have lost law suites, not to mention jurors have been persuaded to convict, for less.
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    None of my USP's have internal locks...out of sight, out of mind. ;)
    [I leave it alone]

    I buy mostly gently used/un altered H&K, when doing a face to face buy, after I drop the mag to clear the weapon, Im looking at that lock and for signs of tampering - missing parts kill the sale right then n there for me.

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    Removing the lanyard loop lock is all fine and dandy, until one day, due to an unfortunate set of circumstances, the firearm is involved in an accidental discharge where there is personal or property damage. Can we say a Lawyer's wet dream? Sir, so you admit before this court that you INTENTIONALLY REMOVED a safety device?
    Case closed. You lose. Pay the civil penalties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Bore View Post
    Removing the lanyard loop lock is all fine and dandy, until one day, due to an unfortunate set of circumstances, the firearm is involved in an accidental discharge where there is personal or property damage. Can we say a Lawyer's wet dream? Sir, so you admit before this court that you INTENTIONALLY REMOVED a safety device?
    Case closed. You lose. Pay the civil penalties.
    Can you site an actual case where someone was convicted of a crime or found liable in negligence due to the "intentional removal of a safety device"? I mean, how is removing an internal lock any more negligent than having the lock but not utilizing it? No offense, but this sounds like unreasonable paranoia to me.

    To answer OP's question, all you need to do is replace the mainspring housing with one that does not contain a lock (European/Canadian version).
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