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    Quote Originally Posted by mchild2 View Post
    Correct me if I am wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the SEALs removed the MP5s out of issue and went to M4's. I wonder what kind of .223 they use?
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    This is a little off topic. But does anyone know where I can get some Israeli IMI 9mm ammo. My class III dealer had some .223 IMI that went for an insane price to a collector. I don't want 1000 rounds or anything, I just want some to say I have it. I'm also looking to get a Galil some day, those are quality weapons !!

    I have some Israeli gas masks among other Military stuff, and I really like the quality. Plus I like supporting their country.

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    Actually the Current Secret Service Issue round right now is the "Cartridge CAL 9mm L MK243 MOD 0 "

    - NSN 1305-01-357-8488 DODIC A260 N00164-96-C-0042

    I know this because I have a box in front of me right now. From a "friend of a friend" so to speak. Great ammo.

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    I have noticed that each department in the government is like a separate company, each selecting their own weapons and ammo.

    One person I know is an IRS agent who is issued a Glock and Speer Gold Dot ammo.
    Another friend is a Border Patrol agent and is issued a USP .40 compact and Winchester Ranger ammo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer View Post
    Actually the Current Secret Service Issue round right now is the "Cartridge CAL 9mm L MK243 MOD 0 "

    - NSN 1305-01-357-8488 DODIC A260 N00164-96-C-0042

    I know this because I have a box in front of me right now. From a "friend of a friend" so to speak. Great ammo.
    Who is the manufacturer?? I want some, only because the SS uses it..Thats awesome..I love collecting things like that.

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    Here's some info on the ammo mentioned above.

    CARTRIDGE, 9MM, MK243MOD 0, JACKETEDHOLLOW-POINT
    Type Classification:
    STD A, June 2002.
    Use:
    The cartridge is intended for use against personnel.
    It is to be used by the Criminal Investigation Command
    Units (USACIDC) in situations where high lethality and
    limited over-penetration of the target are necessary to
    meet the mission profile.
    NOTE
    THE USE OF THIS CARTRIDGE IS
    LIMITED TO USACIDC UNITS
    ONLY, LOCATED IN THE UNITED
    STATES AND ITS TERRITORIES.
    THIS CARTRIDGE CANNOT BE
    ISSUED TO UNITS DEPLOYING
    OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES OR
    ITS TERRITORIES.
    THE CARTRIDGE CAN BE FIRED
    FROM THE M9 PISTOL (BARETTA),
    M11 PISTOL (SIGARMS INC.),
    HECKLER AND KOCH (H&K), MP5
    SUBMACHINE GUN, H&K P9S PISTOL,
    AND SIGARMS INC. P226 PISTOL.
    USACIDC USE WOULD BE
    EXCLUSIVE TO THE M11 PISTOL.
    Description:
    The MK243 MOD 0 cartridge has a hollow point
    bullet tip.
    Tabulated Data:
    Cartridge design type ...................... Anti-personnel
    DODAC .......................................... 1305-A260
    NSN .............................................. 1305-01-357-
    8488
    Weight .......................................... 147 gr
    Length ......................................... 1.10M50 in.max
    Tracer........................................... NA
    Primer.......................................... Percussion
    Fuze ............................................. NA
    Explosive:
    Type ......................................... NA
    Weight...................................... NA
    Incendiary:
    Type ......................................... NA
    Weight...................................... NA
    Propellant:
    Type ......................................... Hercules type 84/
    Winchester
    WPR-293
    Weight...................................... 4.7 gr
    Projectile weight..........................
    Change 6 12-9
    TM 43-0001-27
    Performance:
    Accuracy:
    The cartridge will have an extreme spread of 3.5 inches
    at 50 yards from a five round group (fired from a 4 in.
    barrel).
    Penetration:
    The cartridge will have a 6 inch minimum penetration
    when fired into ordnance gelatin (10% by weight) at 15
    feet from the muzzle.
    Expansion:
    The cartridge will have a .50 inch minimum expansion
    when fired into ordnance gelatin (10% by weight) at 15
    feet from the muzzle.
    Shipping and Storage Data:
    Coast Guard class ........................ 1
    DOD hazard class ........................ 1.4
    DOD transportation class ............ C
    Firefighting group........................ 1
    Storage compatibility group ........ S
    UNO no. ...................................... 0012
    Proper shipping name.................. Cartridge for
    Weapons, Inert
    Projectile
    DOT designation ......................... Small Arms
    Ammunition
    Drawing no. ................................. 7232152
    Package nominal overall height ...... 1.50 in.
    Shipping container
    Package nominal overall length...... 12.03 in.
    Shipping container
    Package nominal overall width....... 6.09 in.
    Shipping Container
    Net explosive weight ...................... 0.00007 Shipboard
    pounds;
    0.0007 Transportation
    pounds
    Unpackaged unit weight ................. 0.03 pounds
    Packaging Data:
    Carton box....................................... 50 rounds/box, 20
    boxes/M2A1
    container (1000
    rounds per
    M2A1)
    M2A1 containers............................. 2- M2A1 containers/
    wirebound
    box, 36 wirebound
    boxes/pallet
    (72,000
    rounds /pallet)
    12-10

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    Now thats what I am talking about!! Good work guys,keep'em coming. I find it interesting that they list the P9S? Not your common carry gun.

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    might be a few around for the SEALS, the other guns mentioned I all seem to be the sort found in the SEAL armory I would guess

    Quote Originally Posted by rext View Post
    Now thats what I am talking about!! Good work guys,keep'em coming. I find it interesting that they list the P9S? Not your common carry gun.

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    Years back when I worked in a gun shop, guy came in and showed me three rounds ( 38 spl, 357?) that he claimed he got from a SS friend. They were exceptionally light bullets, I think he said titanium and they had a white coating (Teflon perhaps?). Guy told me he would come back with more and would sell me a couple. Never showed up again; I should have made him an offer on the spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by panzer View Post
    Actually the Current Secret Service Issue round right now is the "Cartridge CAL 9mm L MK243 MOD 0 "

    - NSN 1305-01-357-8488 DODIC A260 N00164-96-C-0042

    I know this because I have a box in front of me right now. From a "friend of a friend" so to speak. Great ammo.
    Do the bullets in them look like anything on the market right now?

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