Mag Problem

[ohchit]

Our dept just got 10 416s in. Since they come with 1 HK mag, I was going to use a generic M4 mag that we purchased from Brownells a while back. So far the 6 or so that I have tried do not fit. Either they dont go in easy or they do not drop when the mag release is pressed.
Does anyone know the reason for this? I thought standard M4 mags would work fine.
In case there are no easy fixes, does anyone know of a company other than HK that sells the High Reiability Mag. Or how long does it take to get these in if ordered from HK.

Thanks

[RobertMcLeod]

Funny you mention this, I just had this happen to me as well this morning. I have one Brownells magazine and it went into the well and I did not think I was going to get it out.

I have used other standard USGI spec aluminum magazines without problems. Just seems to be the Brownells magazines. You can also try the Magpul E-mags, they are the European cousin to the P-mags. The standard P-mags do not work that well in the 416.

[bauerdb]

http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107693

http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107562

He is a dealer so he should be able to deal with any PO etc.

[Jmacken37]

Use standard GI mags until MagPul releases the Emag. I Beta tested one and it dropped free from all 4 of the 416's I tried it in.

Jake

[ohchit]

Thanks. I have the store I bought the guns from looking into some more HK mags for us. I went to a store in my town that happened to have some in stock ($79.95 each). That will be an extreme last option for me.

[joehk]

http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107693

http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107562

He is a dealer so he should be able to deal with any PO etc.

Pat Rogers is apparently a reliable source.

Note:

Magazine Cartridge NSN 1005015205992 that for each requisition received for replenishments, there is a 'CA' fatal reject processed by the Item Manager. The message reads:

FIELD PROBLEMS WERE IDENTIFIED WITH THE STEEL MAGAZINE(1005-01-520-5992). NO STEEL MAGAZINES WILL BE AVAILABLE UNTIL CORRECTIVE ACTION IS IMPLEMENTED & TESTED TO ASSURE PROPER OPERATION.
REQUIREMENTS FOR 30 ROUND MAG CAN BE FILLED WITH THE ALUMINUM MAGAZINE NSN 1005-00-921-5004.

Not sure if you want to spend 40+ for a HK mag.

[G3Kurz]

Our dept just got 10 416s in. Since they come with 1 HK mag, I was going to use a generic M4 mag that we purchased from Brownells a while back. So far the 6 or so that I have tried do not fit. Either they dont go in easy or they do not drop when the mag release is pressed.
Does anyone know the reason for this? I thought standard M4 mags would work fine.
In case there are no easy fixes, does anyone know of a company other than HK that sells the High Reiability Mag. Or how long does it take to get these in if ordered from HK.

Thanks

This is an educated guess as I have not tried one of the Brownells mags in the HK416. The HK416 mag well is longer than that of the M4. Look to the front surface of the magazine - does it look like it is pressing hard against the front inside surface of the mag well leaving a dent or mark? If so that is the problem - it is getting wedged in just enough where the mag catch catches it but then is not free to drop out due to its ouside profile/curvature that is not compatible with the HK mag well. Try the standard USGI or more expensive HK mags instead.
G3Kurz

[ohchit]

Thank you. I never looked at the front of the mag. I thought it was the back where the metal is folded over each other that was causing the rub.

[G3Kurz]

Thank you. I never looked at the front of the mag. I thought it was the back where the metal is folded over each other that was causing the rub.

Let us know what you find.
G3Kurz

[Phil Flack]

OhChit: We have a few in stock, plenty on order from HK...but we try to keep them in stock for our LE accounts.
Thanks: Phil