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    There are two approaches to CTD. First, if you don't like their prices, don't buy from them. If you do like their prices, buy from them. The second approach, and the approach I took, is to petition the Attorney General in the state where they are incorporated as a LLC. The owner, whom I will not name here, is free to run his business any way he sees fit. What he is not free to do is break the law.

    The Governor of the State of Texas declared a disaster. During a disaster it is a crime by "demanding an exorbitant or excessive price in connection with the sale or lease of fuel, food, medicine, lodging, building materials, construction tools, or another necessity."

    Because of my meticulous documentation with timestamped screenshots of shopping carts it is clear that the owner has intentionally demanded an excessive price for a commodity. His commodity offering has not changed in any aspect except for its price relative to the date of the declaration of disaster.

    The only question is whether ammo is considered a "necessity" by the Attorney General. That is for the Attorney General to decide. And for his consideration, there is SCOTUS language about the purpose of individual firearm ownership, and without ammunition, a firearm is not functional. Ammunition is necessary for a firearm to be functional. It is the same logic of a voting right being recognized, but being restricted by other means such as poll tax. This will take weeks if not months to become clear what position the AG will take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSOGDAWG View Post
    Aaaand here we go....
    So as I said I havent bought from CTD since all their prior shenanigans but i do however get sales emails from CDNN (which I understand to be the same family - but I have never confirmed this). Interestingly enough I open the newest sales email and they have had stripped upper and lower receivers in the white for sale for several weeks for $79.99. Today they are now $89.99....I get it, demand, supply blah blah blah. Not griping or b!tching just posting as general info.
    It does not mean that CTD and CDNN are not in some way connected, but the registered individuals for their corporations are not the same. My impression is that they are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tug View Post
    I does not mean that CTD and CDNN are not in some way connected, but the registered individuals for their corporations are not the same. My impression is that they are not.
    Correct, I agree. i can only say that I was told that "the Dad owns CTD and the son owns CDNN"....100% hearsay, no disputing that. I know the two are in different locations in the state, I have never researched business listings or tax roles to verify, and in complete transparency I have bought from CDNN and been satisfied. My post was aimed at more of a "hey if your not watching you may want to, because when you go to buy you may wind up thinking WTH is up with these prices". They are going to rise, nature of the business.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tug View Post
    There are two approaches to CTD. First, if you don't like their prices, don't buy from them. If you do like their prices, buy from them. The second approach, and the approach I took, is to petition the Attorney General in the state where they are incorporated as a LLC. The owner, whom I will not name here, is free to run his business any way he sees fit. What he is not free to do is break the law.

    The Governor of the State of Texas declared a disaster. During a disaster it is a crime by "demanding an exorbitant or excessive price in connection with the sale or lease of fuel, food, medicine, lodging, building materials, construction tools, or another necessity."

    Because of my meticulous documentation with timestamped screenshots of shopping carts it is clear that the owner has intentionally demanded an excessive price for a commodity. His commodity offering has not changed in any aspect except for its price relative to the date of the declaration of disaster.

    The only question is whether ammo is considered a "necessity" by the Attorney General. That is for the Attorney General to decide. And for his consideration, there is SCOTUS language about the purpose of individual firearm ownership, and without ammunition, a firearm is not functional. Ammunition is necessary for a firearm to be functional. It is the same logic of a voting right being recognized, but being restricted by other means such as poll tax. This will take weeks if not months to become clear what position the AG will take.
    @Tug it's only been 3 months, but any update?
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    And over on SGAMMO.COM - my go to round is 40 cal, Federal HST1 - I stocked up back in 2017. It was running around $375 plus s&h for a case of 1000.

    NOW it's $699.99 for that same case. It's still Federal. It's still P40HST1, which is their top of the line Law Enforcement round. Jacketed Hollow point.

    https://www.sgammo.com/product/40-ca...t-ammo-p40hst1

    Glad I stocked up two plus years ago. At least they still have it. Most folks are OOS on this particular round. They only have 3 cases left. Plus one an a half cases in 50 rnd single boxes for sale (33 total).

    They also have Winchester Ranger 180 gr bonded FN government surplus for $180 for 500 round case. Means a full case of 1000 round, price is $360 plus s&h.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omega21 View Post
    @Tug it's only been 3 months, but any update?
    From the TX AG office.

    We will review the information that you have provided, and will contact you if we need additional
    information. Otherwise, you will not receive further communication from this office regarding your
    complaint. We do not represent individuals in personal civil matters, and thus cannot take direct action on
    every complaint.
    In matters of statewide significance, or when substantive evidence indicates that a person or business is
    systemically violating Texas law, the Attorney General may take action on behalf of the collective legal
    interests of the people of this state. Your information will be kept in our files to be used to help us monitor
    trends in business practices and determine priorities in our enforcement efforts.
    We appreciate your time and interest in preventing consumer law violations and in the affairs of Texas
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    Well that's not super helpful... thanks for the update @Tug
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