I haven't looked the PTR in person, but for some crazy reason, I HAD to have push pin guns. I didn't even have to think about it. Zenith, and very happy so far. Not that I wouldn't buy a PTR to keep a cool trigger group in :) They are pretty much always in stock everywhere too.
"Sometimes change sucks."- Anne Frank
Reloading: A low impact exercise with a high impact payoff.
Take your wife or GF to the range more. If you want her to get the bug, you've got to expose her to the disease.
Retro , We encourage Open, Honest & Civil exchange of ideas even if it does not relate to a product we vend or someone does not like a item we offer , That is how we all learn about this platform . We offer all major makers and it is good to get real world feedback from other Zenith & PTR owners this helps us educate our potential clients.I would doubt that Atlantic feels insulted about a detailed discussion on the benefits of either one over the other
Blaine from Atlantic Firearms called me a year or so to talk about roller delayed blowbacks. He will talk to you for an hour about roller delayed blowbacks and ak’s and is very passionate about the Firearms he sells.
Pretty much it comes to this
If you want full auto host then omega
If you want high quality import from a military factory and will only use semi auto and a weapon that’ll go up in value Zenith
If you want one to shoot a lot and are worried about 922R and warranty PTR. The reviews are pretty good on the PTR’s and I am happy to see another available Mp5. I just wish the prices were lower by 300$
If you want a shooter and an import from a military factory and are willing to have finish scratches or minor blemishes. Some of the Pakistani MP5’s were rejected but many people have great experiences with POF. POF seems to be the cheapest and they have a military factory revert stretch and it says Mp5 on the pistol.
I went with the zenith. It really is a fancy MP5. If I were to get another I’d gamble at a POF. If no more of these ever came back in the USA I would get the PTR.
I also do not like welded on rails. I wish I could rip my rail off my PTR91.
I think the best roller delayed blowbacks on the market are the Zeniths with their lower with the pin. That being said there aren’t many Zeniths out there right now. My favorite offering from PTR is the PTR91 K3P PDW G3KA4 pistol. It is the biggest pistol you can get.
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I bought a shelf from HKparts and took everything to a local welder and bam a few days later I had the gun back then cut out the carrier block and went blasting. Ran the gun without even spray painting the shelf & welds, just shot the crap out of it for about a year until I turned it into a SBR. During that time not one person noticed the bare metal, they were too busy trying to wipe the FA grin off their faces.
My SP5k had a slightly different (higher) shelf on it. I modified a grip with a Dremel tool to properly fit it.
retro - Basically I followed what another had done according to a letter they submitted to ATF stating their intent was to add the classic HK wrap around shelf then remove the carrier block. ATF blessed this approach to allow the use of FA parts. This prevents you from using the push pin of course but matters not to me since all my hosts are configured that way.
I use one of my housings on several different hosts so in this instance I place zero value on the whole "push pin" thing.
I own a few PTR's and a couple Zeniths. In terms of shooting, both companies seem to make solid guns. I'd even say the ptr's seem to be a little nicer in fit and finish. In terms of what I prefer personally, I'd say Zenith. I don't feel like I'm holding a clone when I pick one up. MKE guns are licensed by HK and built on HK tooling. That probably has a lot to do with it. With that said, I don't think you will go wrong with eiter.