Thank you for your efforts--- unfortunately, I will only get one if it is HK-manufactured!!!
I would absolutely own one if made by HK. A clone made by someone who currently isn’t manufacturing firearms does not sound appealing. There have been too many instances of firearms that were crowd funded (prior to that being a term) by taking customer deposits, only to have long delays, promises of “it will be ready in 2 weeks” and other nonsense from the manufacturer. And too many instances of clones that are total POS turds. I would advise that you do not lead your friend down this path.
Last edited by jsurowitz; 01-26-2019 at 01:56 PM.
I have read at least 10 stories like this one. Mostly with COMBLOC stuff. Depending in the level of commitment they stopped at mock ups mostly but a few working prototypes. Everyone is all excited until they discover that with only 50 commited purchasers each barrel will cost $800. Recievers will be $300. Then you need mags to be copied so hit up Ebay and buy a poorly spelled "genuine" from Estonia. Since parts kits are non existant you have to round up all the small parts. I would start with anything but an HK. Exacting tolerances. Expert legal team. Limited market. Some very knowledgeable customers in said market. For 5k (and I don't think that number is possible) it have to be perfect and I still don't think you could sell that many. Most non-HK people balk at $1600 for a PTR based on what I read outside of this particular forum so there goes 99.5% of your gun buying public. Think of high quality clone that buys you as far as a UMP or MP5 type.
But if he's open to suggestions for making dreams happen....
Otherwise investing the money soundly in existing desirable HK hardware would be a safe and exiting use of inheritance. I wish I had become a P7 hoarder years ago.
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Also warn your friend that the best case scenario is:
There is a significant interest. He toils away and comes up with a gun that is very good. You sell several and get a customer base started. Everything is looking rosy. Then PSA and PTR come in and offer a better gun, better warranty, and better customer support for 1/3 the price. And then people start remembering all the stuff they had to send back to you guys while they were beta testers. Your sales plummet. And your senior builder gets busted by the FBI for having child porn and all the episodes of Baywatch and Knight Rider on his computer.
I've seen it happen a thousand times.
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Slagga Mfg LLC And for that matter Chitin defense (posts work on instagram)is doing the pp-19 bizon. Neither have production models up but chitin has made more progress than slagga has.
But back on subject. Yeah an MP7 clone at $5k is not a hot bid. I get it for a small shop to make an ROI on time and money put into a project but chance of that doing well is small.
Last edited by redmax29; 01-26-2019 at 06:56 PM.
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