ETA: It came out of Spring Lake, Michigan, so definitely a Special Weapons (Todd Bailey) receiver. Dave may have sold the barreled upper as part of the Black Market Parts liquidation. But unless it has his name on it - likely he never touched it. It'll probably run just fine though.
i asked these questions of the seller shortly before i made this post:
Hi there can you show me DJs marks on this? or proof that he built it and it’s not just a special weapons produced clone?
This was the sellers response:
Getz did not mark these guns. As the pics show...it's marked Special Weapons on the magwell and SW89k on top. This pistol is from one of the last runs (or the last?) Getz did before he retired due to medical reasons. IIRC, SW made and marked receivers with Getz's info for him which he normally used. My guess is he wanted to do a final run of guns and didn't want to wait on SW to make a run of "Getz" receivers. I bought this pistol and 2 other directly from Getz at the time (total of 3). I've used one set up with my sear ever since and the other 2 went unused...it's just time to sell my unused SP89k's. The SP89k hosting my sear has been a "home run" with regard to performance and reliability.
Proof? Nope...other than I'm the original purchaser and you have my word and track record to see (vs no track record for you?). You can also do google and HKPro searches and read about the "Getz SW89k" guns. Or you may request contact info over at HKPro and contact Getz himself...either way...the pistol is appropriately and correctly represented and you have the means to prove that to your own satisfaction.
If you have any reservations with regard to the pistol's lineage...by all means do not bid on the listing.
As a FFL who manufactured firearms. His company name and address of manufacture would have to be on the firearm to be legal.
If he assembled the parts on to a marked receiver to make a complete firearm, he would have to mark it.
You can check the ATF site for the rules.
If DJ purchase the firearms from SW for resale. he wouldnít have to mark them.
The fact that the seller got defensive. Then attacked your character. Would raise red flags to me about it being a genuine Getz build.
Without DJís markings on the firearm. Or a letter of authenticity with the serial number signed and dated by DJ, itís just BS.
Sheesh. By the sellers response some might think it’s Todd himself selling it.
Thanks all, the defensive response was a red flag for me as well. Also great point about manufacturing and having to put his name on it. I really appreciate the help on this one guys
I have a K clone that came right from Dave himself, new in the box he sent it in. It IS marked as a Special Weapons made gun, and it IS NOT MARKED by Dave in any fashion.
But it sure as heck came new from Dave. It shipped to me as a firearm via my FFL. In addition, when I decided to get it, I asked Dave if he would be willing to give it a solid DJ going over to ensure it worked. He agrees to do so, checked it all out, made sure fit and and parts installs were fine and no burrs or hic-ups, nothing out of spec, then reported back to me and shipped it as the barreled receiver it was. I just had to add my bolt group and trigger pack and housing and away I went.
It has functioned perfectly since then.
So could the gun for sale be a legit gun which is only marked SW and not by Dave? Yep. Absolutely. And no, I have no idea who the seller is and it’s not mine for sale.
Dave was indeed blowing those receivers out in his last year or so, where he got them I have no idea.
Did he barrel the upper? Or did he purchased a barrel upper, inspect it and then sell it to you?
If he did either he would not have to mark it.
It wasnít a complete functioning firearm that you received from him. So it wouldnít need to be marked by him.
Only the receiver by its manufacturer with the serial number.
Technically that firearm was manufactured by you. If all you received was a barred upper from him. Then built a complete functioning firearm from it.