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    Quote Originally Posted by hken View Post
    Wow, awesome. Thanks a lot for the list.

    Would you say the most recent USP is "better" than the older ones? After all the changes?
    Depends on how you define better. My KF first year USP .45 is just as good as a current one, I don't dry fire, so the AF updates don't effect how I use this USP.

    This is 20 rounds @ 45ft, it's a superb shooter. =)

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    Thanks @Kost

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    I know this might sound trivial but the older pistol will have a roll mark HK on the slide and the newer one will most likely be laser etched. Some say the laser etched has a tendency to rust.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hken View Post
    Wow, awesome. Thanks a lot for the list.

    Would you say the most recent USP is "better" than the older ones? After all the changes?
    No ! i have a few USP 45's that date from AA-BD, all are top quality, built like tanks, accurate and 100% reliable !

    the only exception are my 2 LEO trade-ins, which i did upgrade a few parts, mag, hammer, flat/sear spring and sear catch etc..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kost View Post
    Depends on how you define better. My KF first year USP .45 is just as good as a current one, I don't dry fire, so the AF updates don't effect how I use this USP.

    This is 20 rounds @ 45ft, it's a superb shooter. =)

    "Better" I mean they are more robust to all conditions. Great shooting by the way :)


    Quote Originally Posted by OlDirtyBastard View Post
    No ! i have a few USP 45's that date from AA-BD, all are top quality, built like tanks, accurate and 100% reliable !

    the only exception are my 2 LEO trade-ins, which i did upgrade a few parts, mag, hammer, flat/sear spring and sear catch etc..

    I know all HKs are over-engineered and built to last. But incremental improvements make them even more "bullet" proof, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hken View Post
    "Better" I mean they are more robust to all conditions. Great shooting by the way :)





    I know all HKs are over-engineered and built to last. But incremental improvements make them even more "bullet" proof, don't you think?
    agreed ! the end result is perfection and one of the most reliable sidearms ever manufactured .

    other example of "over-engineered" is the .40 and 9mm basically share the same frame specs per model . the 45acp frame is slightly larger and more robust . german engineering at its finest .

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    I read somewhere that you can get a free upgrade if your older model usp still have the older parts like non-captured recoil spring and rod? Maybe the firing pin and firing pin block? If that true?
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    And the sights, my KD and KF have the white dot insert through from front to back , my BD just a dot in the front. Certainly the early sights are better and from what I see the white dot is a rod that can be replaced. When was this change made?

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    An extra part if you're converting to LEM.
    I have old and new.
    IMHO they are all good
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    Below is a more complete list of changes over the year.

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    Changes made to the USP series:
    1994 (KE): Reduced the slide weight by 1.1 oz
    1994-95 (KE-KF): Changed to a polygonal rifled barrel (Prior barrels were standard land and groove)
    1994-95 (KE-KF): Changed trigger transfer bar
    1994-95 (KE-KF): Changed recoil guide rod to a "captured spring version"
    1995 (KF): Changed trigger mechanism
    1995 (KF): Changed frame to allow new-design hammer axle and LEM conversion
    1995 (KF): Changed hammer strut
    1995 (KF): Changed one-piece catch to two-piece catch
    1995-96 (KF-KG): Added rubber spur to hammer
    1995-96 (KF-KG): Changed angle on slide lock
    2000 (AA): Added locking feature to hammer strut support (lanyard safety)
    2001 (AB): Converted captive recoil spring retainer from c-clip to machined end on USP Compacts (not USPf)
    2005 (AF): Redesigned firing pin, firing pin block, and firing pin block spring
    2005 (AF): Changed to longer catch and new hammer with the cut-out for the new catch

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