DA/SA for me as well. I briefly installed the LEM into my USP 9 full size and switched it back to DA/SA. Also owned an HK45c LEM but really despised the LEM. My issue w it is mostly matter of training. my brain is so accustomed to striker trigger or a DA/SA system. the LEM has the length of pull like a DA (similar to revolver), but really it's an SA trigger. my brain just couldn't get used to it.
on the P2000 V3, I recently installed the wolff 10 lb hammer spring and it provides a buttery smooth 8lb DA pull w perfectly reliable primer ignition.
I have V3 (DA/SA). The LEM is good, too... but it definitely has a steeper learning curve in my experience. Since I shoot a variety of guns, I try to stick with just DA/SA or striker fired. I have a tendency to short stroke the reset on LEM.
Go with what you like. If you have a lot of other guns that are DA/SA, and you shoot them well, then why deviate for this purchase? The LEM, in my opinion, works really well for people who learned to shoot with, or have a lot of, striker-fired pistols. I think it's a lot better than any striker-fired pistol because there's almost no tactile interference during the pre-travel, until you get to the breaking point where you come to a wall, and then you've got a nice, crisp break, followed by the same distance of trigger reset in between shots as you'd have on the DA/SA model.
Honestly, how? I have owned both DA/SA and LEM versions of the P30sk and USPc, and there is no difference in the trigger reset distance between DA/SA and LEM of a given model pistol. I haven't owned any P2000s, but I have trouble imagining that this model alone would be different in this regard.
Maybe you mean that you have a tendency to long-stroke them by releasing the trigger farther forward than it needs to go? I just don't see how short-stroking an LEM trigger is a thing, given that I have observed no difference in trigger reset distance.
Honestly, how? I have owned both DA/SA and LEM versions of the P30sk and USPc, and there is no difference in the trigger reset distance between DA/SA and LEM of a given model pistol. I haven't owned any P2000s, but I have trouble imagining that this model alone would be different in this regard.
Maybe you mean that you have a tendency to long-stroke them by releasing the trigger farther forward than it needs to go? I just don't see how short-stroking an LEM trigger is a thing, given that I have observed no difference in trigger reset distance.
Because LEM is a consistent trigger pull, so I have a tendency to treat it like a striker subconsciously... i.e. - Glock, VP9, P320, PPQ...
I didn't have that issue with the USP LEM(because it's a bit shorter), but the P-series guns have a longer reset. It's just a 3rd trigger style that I rather like in dry fire... but in actual practice, it didn't work as well for me.
That's not a knock against the system. I actually wish it did work better for me... I'm sure it would if I invested enough training time with it... but I've got plenty of other guns to shoot and the V3 model worked as expected right off the bat.
I think I'm going DA/SA. At the moment my only autos are 1911s as I sold all my Strikers. Tried getting a p2000 v3 9mm LE with 3 10rd mags today but Cross Creek's dealers are out. He put me on a list.
I agree that it is a personal preference. I have both and prefer the LEM for carry purposes and the DA/SA for general range fun. If the DA on the HKs was a cleaner pull (I have not had any work done on mine) like the Sig DA, I think I would prefer the DA/SA.
I struggled with the heavy stacking on the DA pull until I started replacing the hammer springs. The wolff 10lb hammer springs are cheap and take approx 2 min to swap. Result is much less stacking on the DA pull. Now I can draw and press my DA shot with good results. Using the stock hammer springs I had to press the DA very very slowly and work on keeping the sights aligned.
My gratitude is to this forum which is how I was introduced to the Wolff hammer spring upgrade. Gotta admit of all the firearms forums HKpro has some of the most knowledgeable members.
now in my older stage of life, 64 YO, I carry DA/SA or C&L (1911s) I seldom carry striker fired guns anymore, the P-2000 is a very nice CCW weapon BTW.
I've revisited the idea of the 45c instead of the P2000 in 9mm but I think the P2000 is the way to go even in a ban state.
Pros and cons of the 45c
Cons:
Slightly heavier
More recoil
2 less rounds (5 less in free states)
$300-400 more
Ammo costs a lot more
Pro:
It's very close in size
It's stupid accurate.
Grip is the same length as my P2000, but a bit wider when looking at it from the side.
Recoil is excellent for a .45, very easy to handle.
In this size gun, if I were in a ban state, I'd rather have 8 rounds of ,45 than 10 of 9mm. If I was restricted to 10x 9mm, I'd go down to the P2000SK. (which I also have, and is excellent too)
Funny addition, I posted earlier I prefer DA/SA. Was at the range this morning with my DA/SA P30SK and my LEM P2000SK. Shot the P2000SK LEM much, much better than the DA/SA P30SK. The P30SK is still pretty new and probably needs more break in with the trigger, but I thought it was interesting given what I posted earlier in the thread.
Yup, I reload for everything I shoot and I still cringe at the cost of buying .45ACP bullets VS. 9mm. $10 per thousand doesn't sound like a big deal, but once you hit the 20-25,000 rounds a year mark it starts adding up.......
if they made a 45c with rear mounted decocker like the P2000/P30, I would be all over it. but i'm not a fan of having a huge decocking/safety lever the side of a carry gun. personal preference of course. YMMV.
I am in a similar quandary. I have a VP9 and a P30S V3. I think I want (not need) a P2000. I enjoy each one equally. I am mostly on the fence about V1 or V3. It really has me not "pulling the trigger" on the purchase. I am not concerned about the manual of arms as I have other DAO HD/CCW options. These are used on the range only. Any advice or insight would be great. Thanks
I'm curious what made you go that way? For me I find the DA pull of the V3 to be a little heavy and thought the smoother lighter pull of the V2 was nice for a first shot.
DA/SA, have it in HK.45C, P-2000, P-2000SK, USPc, USP.
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