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    I'd like to practice drawing and dry firing my HKs, especially when I am not able to go to the range for two or three weeks. I'd like to practice with my P30 V1. Is there any product available like the SIRT that would reset the trigger after each pull? I'm not thinking that racking the slide each time is the most productive use of my time. Any suggestions are welcome.

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    Try pulling the trigger just enough so that the hammer moves a bit to where you can cock the hammer with your thumb instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dms16 View Post
    The SIRT pistol with reset and things like the Mantis-X are a bit like Oprah's book club. I don't believe in them; nobody really needs them but if they get people reading/dry-firing...I guess that's something.

    The best "training tool" is a double/triple-checked empty VP9 and some decent dummy rounds (metal cased, not the all polymer). Along with whatever holster you have, you can pretty much work reloads, draw and first-round hit. You don't need some fancy BS to learn how to work your trigger well. The "reset" trigger is a little lazy in that you're not going to get anything for follow-up shots/recoil control from ANY dryfire system. That has to be done on a range with live rounds...or just head to the south end of town and get some REAL trainin' (only kidding).

    Just roll with an empty VP9 and save the money. So long as you understand what you are doing and how to facilitate proper dryfire training, that's all you need.

    (Yes, I have tried the SIRT and Mantis-X attachment for personal and agency use. The only place I liked having the SIRT was for heavy-handed people on patrol ops scenarios where the laser would light up with premature trigger touch.)
    Pretty much everything I just said the other day...just replace "VP9" with "P30".

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    You don't need anything for dry fire practice to become a world class shooter.
    Just thumb cock the LEM hammer, like a G.

    However...
    I did recently receive an "iTarget" as kind of a gimmicky gift, but quickly found out it is a really quality training tool to add reaction to your dry firing (kinda like shooting steel versus paper, there is a sensory affirmation for a hit/miss). You don't really need the target or software, just the laser bullet to shoot at light switches and so on around the house. I've been shooting pistols avidly for (jeez I'm old) and was surprised how much it helps straightening in the mind curious subtleties surrounding shot placement.
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    I'm a recent user of the MantisX and I like it. With its audible readout of your score, it makes it easy to know how you are doing without having to look at the screen all the time.

    I use it with many of my HK's (P30L, VP9, 45C and MK23) and it really helps with muscle memory for each piece.

    It sounds like a gimmick and I was thinking the same... until I tried it.

    I can see though how someone in LE or those with full and easy access to a range will think it's not worth it.



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    Woah, waitaminute. Can a V1 hammer be cocked with a thumb? I had no idea. Wow. I learn something every visit to these forums.

    @dms16 , those are good suggestions. I am going to focus my practice on drawing and firing with the first shot. That ought to be the most critical one any way.

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    Not a problem...

    I think that would be a wise decision. You can technically cock the bobbed LEM hammer, but it's kind of a pain...Just rack the darn slide (how do you think Glock people dry fire?).

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    That's IMO opinion the advantage of the vp9. You don't have to rack it all the way.

    Just click it back a little and the trigger resets.

    Makes for dry fire practise a breeze.



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    Quote Originally Posted by silverbullet818 View Post
    That's IMO opinion the advantage of the vp9. You don't have to rack it all the way.

    Just click it back a little and the trigger resets.
    Same with the P30. Don’t need to fully rack the slide to reset the trigger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheignsaw View Post
    Same with the P30. Don’t need to fully rack the slide to reset the trigger.
    Don’t you just cock the hammer back?


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