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    You want to spend cash on investments - buy real estate. Firearms rarely appreciate significantly in value to make it worth it over the long haul. For most of us, the value is in their use, not sitting squirreled away for "someday". After 25+ years of buying and selling I'm probably in the hole 10K plus but I wouldn't change a thing (other than buying more Apple stock!).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewer View Post
    Off roster HKs are certainly an investment if able to legally get them into Cali! Well that said all off roster pistols seem to sell for close to double their standard price.
    Only in CA

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkeWolf View Post
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    Off roster HKs are certainly an investment if able to legally get them into Cali! Well that said all off roster pistols seem to sell for close to double their standard price.
    Not by choice of the buyer. I've talked to a couple of CA residence who really feel like their wallets get r**ed by that roster list.
    Funnily enough the ATF is currently going after the plethora of LEOs who have been flipping. Some being as bold as buying a Glock 43 one day, and selling it the same day for $1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by nlgFSU View Post
    I own several HK pistols

    It appears that a lot of these weapons are losing value. Especially the P30 and USP series

    I own a USP Expert and figured that would have gone up in value but has actually declined

    Can anyone offer any insight. Thanks.

    As others have already said, production firearms probably should not be considered investments unless there's something special about them (limited run, no longer made and highly sought after). Its better to view them as rock solid tools for personal protection, enjoyment(skills practice, competition), or items that you are able to keep and bear in accordance with your 2A rights. The comics industry nearly died in the 90's because of the investment angle some folks took when they made speculative purchases.

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    P30's actually went down in value as HK dropped the price on them a little over a year ago.

    And, like others have said, the only USP's that will go up in value are excellent condition safe queens or NIB Match's or the limited edition colored frame models from 2004/2005.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewer View Post
    Funnily enough the ATF is currently going after the plethora of LEOs who have been flipping. Some being as bold as buying a Glock 43 one day, and selling it the same day for $1000
    Ok, I'm actually kind of hesitant to post this response. I do not want to post in a manner that puts law enforcement officers in a bad light, without any proof, or as a generalization. I do want to go so far as to say, that I AM NOT DOING THAT. From the articles that I just read, researching this it's more a case of The ATF having multiple ongoing investigations of guns that are off roster that are being sold illegally. Or by small margin that the ATF feels they need to further investigate the transactions.
    It's not that the officers are selling so many of them. It's a lot of "if's" "what if's" and "maybe, maybe nots" that the particular law does and doesn't state, or does or doesn't provide record of, or does or doesn't make identification of affiliation, necessary.
    [Edit] I do also want to mention, that there's been people who buy the SCCY in frequent quantity, to collect all the colors. If they buy too many at once, or too many of them per month, they get the ATF knocking at their door.
    That's not to say the ATF are paranoid or anything like that. It means it raises a flag, when you're buying a lot of guns over a short period of time, and they do their jobs and investigate those flags.
    Essentially what it boils down to, is when a non-licensed, non-FFL buys x amount of guns, within x amount of time, it sets off a flag, and the ATF comes in to investigate. They want to know if that individual still has all those guns. If that individual doesn't still have a buttload of guns, after buying them, they wanna know where all those guns went.[/edit]

    So back on topic- I agree, yeah. If you're in the gun collecting to make a profit, you're gonna spend a lot of cash to make cash. Just because most of the old guns that actually ARE worth a lot, ARE going to COST you a lot.
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    I own a USP FULL SIZE 9 FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND IT STILL LIKE NEW

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    Only HK I have that says its Made in USA is my HK45CT.... I hate that is says that on it but anyway I wanted one and that's the one I got lol

    I would also say that everyone that keeps posting about H&K going Bankrupt and all lol
    hold on to the guns because if that happens they will cost more over the years.... Just an idea I have

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