Keep your booger hook off the bang switch till you're ready to bring the hate
"Section 13. Effective October 1, 2018, section 790.222, Florida Statutes,
is created to read:
790.222 Bump-fire stocks prohibited.—A person may not import into
this state or transfer, distribute, sell, keep for sale, offer for sale, possess, or
give to another person a bump-fire stock. A person who violates this section
commits a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s.
775.083, or s. 775.084. As used in this section, the term “bump-fire stock”
means a conversion kit, a tool, an accessory, or a device used to alter the rate
of fire of a firearm to mimic automatic weapon fire or which is used to
increase the rate of fire to a faster rate than is possible for a person to fire
such semiautomatic firearm unassisted by a kit, a tool, an accessory, or a
Last edited by Tactician; 03-18-2018 at 12:35 AM.
The FL definition of bumpfire stock does not sound limited to stocks. IMO.
There was a learning curve initially for all of them. The first time I used the AR-C1 I was constantly overrunning it amd was ready to rip it out. But I didnt, and I got better over time.
The HK-C1 has the longest pre-travel and longest reset of any of them. You cant overrun the carrier like the AR-C1, but you can miss allowing a full reset and pull back on air. You then have to release completely (Fire) and then its fine. That took a few times to get the hang of as I didnt want to let it reset fully. Once I figured out where the break and the reset were, this trigger was no longer a mystery.
Honestly if Franklin removed the excessive pre-travel and shortened the reset this would be equal to (and possible better than) the other (AR) options. Also, I have to say the quality (craftsmanship) of what appears to be potmetal in my Echo II does not inspire confidence. I never had any second thoughts about dropping the HK-C1 into my MP5 as the machined parts are way better quality than the Fostech offerings., All ready I have a decent dimple on one of the Echo hammers and Im not the only one with that development.
Ill also say it again...try the HK-C1 on a 308 gun...I would think the bulky carrier would slow it down, but it actually runs faster than the 9mm's. I picked up a third HK-C1 to run dedicated in my V51 clone....well at least until Oct lol, time will tell.
To each their own with this, and Im sorry to hear there was a qaulity issue Nahalem...so far mine are rock solid.
Last edited by Tactician; 03-18-2018 at 01:32 AM.
Originally I thought the problem might be specific to just one firearm but then I tested it in a .308 rifle with a dirrerent housing and had the same malfunction. Binary mode works flawlessly, but for obvious reasons I need semi auto mode to not burst fire.
The first time I sent the trigger back was because Franklin had applied Loctite to the ride height adjustment screw at the factory and no amount of heat or gentle persuasion would free it up. I sent it back and asked that a new screw minus the Loctite be installed. A very small and minor issue IMO.
So I had an interesting thought about 790.222 last night:
There is no exemption clause...period. Not just grandfathering, but no clause to allow police or government possession. This means that when the police take possession of an illegal bump stock, they can be charged with a 3rd degree felony. All other laws have police/government expemtions, be it illegal/scheduled drugs, machineguns, or other contraband. This law has no such exemption.
I dont know what that means right now, but its a gaping hole in an already poorly written bill.
This poses a huge problem on enforcement of the law. If the police take possession of the evidence, they have admitted to breaking the law. If they dont, there is no evidence in the case against you.
Just an interesting observation.
Also Nahalemguy, let us know how it works out after you get you get it back..
Last edited by Tactician; 03-18-2018 at 06:07 PM.
Just saw on the local SW FL. news a segment on bump stocks. They mentioned Binary triggers and said they were included. They are saying, after Oct. 1st if you own it you must destroy it, with no compensation. WOW! Looks like mine will stay in Ohio till they do the same. SB 260 in the works.
Just cancelled my order on OP... not worth it if it ever gets banned in the future especially for the cost... oh well.