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    NWA Tactical / Knesek arms has them in stock for $1345 shipped, or on Gunbroker, but they ding you 4% extra for a credit card if you buy through Gunbroker. They say on GB they have five in stock, well, not it is only four. :)

    https://nwatactical.com/kac-hk-mk-23...sor-94368.html




    IF YOU TRY TO PURCHASE THIS VIA NWA TACTICAL THEY WILL BASICALLY RIP YOU OFF AND NOT HONOR THE SALE AND DEMAND 4% MORE EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NOTHING ON THE WEBSITE INDICATING THIS ADDITIONAL FEE.
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    WARNING: If you order on the NWA Tactical.com website you will be able to order it and not be charged 4% extra for credit card use; however, you will get a follow up email cancelling that order and informing you that "sorry, our website is not working very well" and then you will get an invoice dinging you for $55 extra for using a credit card, and charging you $15 extra for insurance.

    I received a "transaction receipt" clearly showing my purchase had gone through and I had not been charged anything extra!

    But then they turned around and cancelled it all informing me of the extra charges. Very uncool!! Pretty shoddy business practice by Knesek if you ask me.

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    This is unfortunately not the first story like this I have heard about this vendor. From time-to-time Silencer Shop also has them; I bought mine there.
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    And it only gets worse, or better, depending on your point of view.

    Here are my follow up exchanges directly with Larry Knessek II

    Larry,

    Your response does not address the issue. I made a legitimate and legal purchase on the NWA Tactical website for the Knight's suppressor and received proof my purchase in the form of a transaction receipt. At no point during this process, nor anywhere on your NWA Tactical website is there any indication you would require a 4% additional amount for the use of a credit card. Will you honor this sale or not?


    He responded:

    Hello,

    Unfortunately we are still working out the bugs with the new website per the advisory. We do offer a cash discount if you send in a check or money order.


    Larry R. Knesek II
    President / CEO
    Phone: 479.474.1680
    Direct Line: 202.760.2299

    To which I responded:

    Larry,

    I have filed a formal complaint with the Better Business Bureau.

    I am asking you to honor the sale your took as proven by the transaction receipt I received.

    You are refusing to do that.

    This is is very shoddy and dishonest and a horrible way to go about business.


    And then, get this response from him...after several hours of BS and nonsense...

    Hello, I hate that you felt you needed to do that. I actually made a note on your account for when they came in to give you a discount which would cover the credit card processing fee.

    And I replied:

    You could have told me that, Larry, right away, and we could have avoided all this.


    The lesson here is AVOID LARRY KNESEK AND NWA TACTICAL LIKE THE PLAGUE....GEESH.

    I'll just wait until Silencer Shop has them in stock again.

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    Larry responded ... again:

    You have never done business with us before so you do not know how we do business. We will make the customer an invoice and only when the item is ready to ship do we charge their credit card. The first step is to make you an invoice for your review and since there was an issue a note was made on your account so when we do contact you to finalize your order you would receive the proper discount.

    I have ask the IT department that is doing the programming on the new website to make the credit card processing fees more obvious. They are clearly listed on the FAQ page.

    We bend over backwards for our customers so hopefully now you see that. Once we receive the serial numbers from Knights we will contact you to get your dealers information.

    Have a wonderful weekend.


    I sent him this response:

    Larry:

    1) Take down the NWA Tactical website site, immediately. You are just misleading people with it and making your company look like fools.
    2) Figure out how to do online sales like 99% of every other firearm online retailer. Your methods are ridiculous, in the extreme.
    3) Behave with integrity and honesty and do not mislead customers and then wait to do the right thing. Make it right, right away.

    I manage a large customer facing business and if we did business like this we would be closing the doors very quickly.

    You have not "bent over backwards" for me, all I got was excuse making and then only after I said I'm filing the complain with BBB did you say you have put a note on my account to cover my CC upcharge fee.

    I will not do business with you and I will do all I can to publicize this incident and it will join the sad litany of similar stories that are easily found on the Internet and across multiple gun forums.

    Do not contact me again.
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    unfortunately, this has happened many times before. Noted on this and many other forums. Unacceptable.

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    As indicated, I filed a formal BBB complaint. And I'm sharing this incident everywhere and anywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GRClark View Post
    As indicated, I filed a formal BBB complaint. And I'm sharing this incident everywhere and anywhere.

    Larry Knesek II is a total and complete douche bag, as far as I'm concerned.


    Kudos for informing others before they get caught up!! There are a lot of shady deals that start to happen during pullbacks in the market such as there is now. Companies hurting for money will do things they have never done before and some do the **** al the time.

    I go out of my way to make sure buyers of personal items I am selling are 100% happy and I am not even a business dealer.

    I have had the occasional "I thought you were selling me a complete no law letter HK 416 D" buyers when I was clearly selling off some of my uppers!! The sale thread was very clear and I am NOT and SOT so how I would be in possession of a MG, well you get the idea.. Other then that..

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    My pleasure...

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    Yep, pretty typical of Knesek. I doubt your emails will change anything though, there have been numerous complaints about them on several forums over the past several years. Them and Botach are both on my do not do business with list, along with a few other companies.
    The beatings will continue until morale improves.

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