I’m curious why some of you want to buy a 416 LPK when a AR15 LPK will work perfectly fine? Add $20 for a 416 buffer retainer set up.
The price difference is ridiculous, and there’s no visible or notable preformance difference.
What am I missing?
HK-91, HK-93, USC/UMP Conversion, SL8, G36C, HK45, HK45C, VP9, P30L, USPC 9mm, DJ Getz 94, Omega MP5SD, Vector 53, Vector 51, Cetme Sporter, C93, C93 Pistol, TD-415 (416 Clone), GSG9 416C clone.
Look, I'm not arguing that any mil-spec LPK isn't just as good. Clearly the 416 LPK's were based off of Colt's LPK. They were even manufactured by third party OEM's in the earlier days. Obviously, the Geissele 416 FCG is also clone correct and it's a signification improvement over stock.
The three buffer retention parts are $15. Anyone going a full clone route can afford $15 in parts to do it right. IIRC, the hole is dimensionally different on an 416 (or clone) lower so those parts are recommend, if not outright required.
I would add that the 416 buffer and spring are a lot heavier and, while I have used them in a standard AR-15 lower, the buffer retention pin is pretty puny next it's 416 cousin.
On ne voit bien qu'avec le cur. L'essentiel est invisible pour les yeux.
I think we’re saying the same thing, I agree with using the correct buffer retainer pieces.
But trigger, push pins, mag catch, ect... those are interchangeable with a regular AR LPK correct?
If they are, it seems crazy to spend $300 on a 416 LPK if the only parts that are proprietary are the buffer retainer pieces.
Own: HK91, SP5k, G36k, HK416, P30L, 2x P8, P8A1, USP SD, USP9, USP9 FDE
Future: SP5? Assuming I can find an honest seller.
Just an FYI for everyone.
I just spoke with a Brownells CS, they are currently working on orders placed on November 12th, my order was placed November 13th, she said they have approximately 25 orders ahead of mine.
She didn’t have an ETA on when the next batch would arrive from PWS and be shipped. She did however say they are trickling in to them in small batches.
I ordered mine on the 12th so that's great news. Thanks for sharing!
If that is the pace it looks like it will be 2019 before they get to the black Friday orders.
Second week of January, I'll just go to the monthly Kansas City gun show and pick up a lower and brace to get up and running.
At some point, Brownells will get sorted, you guys will all have your stuff, and I'll make the move and try to find a someone to mark it up to appear like a real 416.
Or not. Maybe I'll just buy an FNH AR pistol, and run the 416 upper on top of that. HK upper + FNH lower = fire & ice magic.
Glad they answered you Guido....still nothing on my email inquiry.