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    Get on their website and send them feedback, that is what I just did. Sales numbers speak loudest, but letting them know what we want is important as well.


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    It looks like it belongs on this...
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    Just get a strike industries “Slick” rail $179 - https://www.strikeindustries.com/sho...s-9-11-13.html

    looks like they sort of copied that...
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    Redundant front picatinny rail sections at 3, 6 and 9 o'clock, no front QD mount, cheap look ... what else could you ask for? Compliments on a job well done Geissele!

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    I'd be interested to see some pics of it installed on a 416, if anyone here picks one up. I might not be a fan, but I'd have to see some pics to be sure.

    It's more than two ounces lighter than the original Geissele HK SMR, so it has that going for it - and M-LOK is the new standard for good reason. It doesn't look like it has the curvature that made the original so comfortable. I like Geissele as a company as a company so it's possible it would grow on me - if I were getting a new 416 upper, I would at least consider the new one.

    For those that have the original SMR rail, you may be interested to know (if you didn't know already) that Arisaka has components from a mil contract that are designed to attach directly to the SMR slots - I got the light mount and can confirm that it's AWESOME :)

    https://arisakadefense.com/collectio...t-geissele-416

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    Quote Originally Posted by TLOU_Joel View Post
    For those that have the original SMR rail, you may be interested to know (if you didn't know already) that Arisaka has components from a mil contract that are designed to attach directly to the SMR slots - I got the light mount and can confirm that it's AWESOME :)
    At first glance I was interested in their Indexer Geissele SMR 416:
    https://arisakadefense.com/collectio...issele-smr-416

    However, judging from the pictures, it appears like it's just mounted via the screws, with no part of it to protrude inside the G rail to create a point of contact. Geissele designed their accessory rail sections with two round protrusions to go inside the rail slots for a good reason. Considering that the Arisaka Indexer (whatever that means) is intended to be used as a handstop, it’ll put a lot of stress on the screw sockets and the places where the sockets are mounted to the rail. Obviously it won’t matter so much with the light mount.

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    Nice opportunity for a high quality M-lok rail to compete with MI but ruined by the addition of the picatinny rail sections at the front. Seriously, if you can afford a 416 AND a Geissele rail then you can afford a direct M-lok mount for your flashlight and some M-lok rail panels. Why do companies still pander to people with heavier and dated Picatinny mounts like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingAttackPorcupine View Post
    Nice opportunity for a high quality M-lok rail to compete with MI but ruined by the addition of the picatinny rail sections at the front. Seriously, if you can afford a 416 AND a Geissele rail then you can afford a direct M-lok mount for your flashlight and some M-lok rail panels. Why do companies still pander to people with heavier and dated Picatinny mounts like this?
    Primarily for laser devices that have picatinny attachments. I’m not a huge fan of it either, but I’d guess I’m not the target customer.

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    One step forward, two steps back... I'm happy I was able to get my hands on some of the older rails before they were discontinued to be replaced by these.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlyingAttackPorcupine View Post
    Nice opportunity for a high quality M-lok rail to compete with MI but ruined by the addition of the picatinny rail sections at the front. Seriously, if you can afford a 416 AND a Geissele rail then you can afford a direct M-lok mount for your flashlight and some M-lok rail panels. Why do companies still pander to people with heavier and dated Picatinny mounts like this?
    My thoughts exactly. All they had to do was make it similar to CSASS Handguard, but somehow they manage to screw it up.

    Regarding the MLOk alternatives, KDG makes a very nice, clean looking rail, which however has two cons (at least for me): there are no steel inserts in the QD sockets and you have to use their proprietary screws. But I’m sure it will work great for competition use and that kind of stuff.

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