If the HK53 was adopted by the Bundeswehr - Page 2
Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 21

Thread: If the HK53 was adopted by the Bundeswehr

  1. #11
    Desperately Needs Treatment
    21HK's Avatar
    Join Date : Mar 2010
    Posts : 1,155
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Klaus Von Richter View Post
    That’s all this is, speculation, since Bundeswehr never adopted the 53.

    Isn’t your picture of a 33K, since the cocking tube isn’t recessed into the receiver.
    Typo ...sorry about that, yes it's a 33K. I was reading this thread while working on fixing some computer issues at the same time, needless to say my thought process was going in about ten different directions. (correction noted)

  2. #12
    Member

    Join Date : Sep 2016
    Posts : 51
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)

    Default

    I have seen in a couple of sources that the "MP" in MP44 was a deliberate deception meant to keep Hitler off the weapons designers asses temporarily, as he was strongly opposed to any rifle cartridge smaller than the full size 8mm .

  3. #13
    AGG
    AGG is offline
    Unrepentant HKHolic
    AGG's Avatar
    Join Date : Feb 2007
    Location : Alabama
    Posts : 31,409
    Mentioned
    192 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 21HK View Post
    Not MP (Maschinenpistole) since it's not a pistol caliber ..just my opinion.
    This is the earliest 5̶3̶ 33K that I have seen pictures of.

    Attachment 205801 Attachment 205809
    I believe that the "MP53" was originally classified as an "SMG" (v. an "Assault Rifle") because of the 8.3" barrel, with special muzzle suppressor due to weapon rise caused by the rifle caliber!!!

    The earliest HK33 that I have seen is HK33 013206 (1971).

    Thanks for the pic--- added to my data.
    What are the selector markings, and in what country is this located?

    Tony
    Last edited by AGG; 06-11-2018 at 02:24 PM.

  4. Remove Advertisements
    HKPro.com
    Advertisements
     

  5. #14
    Senior Member

    Join Date : Mar 2016
    Location : Between Oberndorf & Suhl
    Posts : 118
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)

    Default

    The number - regardless of classification as a rifle (G for ‚Gewehr‘) or a SMG (MP for ‚Maschinenpistole‘) - would have been awarded in sequence with weapons already adopted or söated for adoption (think G1 [FN FAL], G2 [SIG StG 57 in 7,62] or G4. [AR 10]). The G36 was project ‚HK 50‘ before adoption...

    I don‘t have a complete list aside from Wikipedia, which has a lot ot blank spots. I think the G41 was slated for rear echelon troops after adoption of the G11 - but I don‘t know about the missing numbers in between.

  6. #15
    AGG
    AGG is offline
    Unrepentant HKHolic
    AGG's Avatar
    Join Date : Feb 2007
    Location : Alabama
    Posts : 31,409
    Mentioned
    192 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 3two8 View Post
    The number - regardless of classification as a rifle (G for ‚Gewehr‘) or a SMG (MP for ‚Maschinenpistole‘) - would have been awarded in sequence with weapons already adopted or söated for adoption (think G1 [FN FAL], G2 [SIG StG 57 in 7,62] or G4. [AR 10]). The G36 was project ‚HK 50‘ before adoption...

    I don‘t have a complete list aside from Wikipedia, which has a lot ot blank spots. I think the G41 was slated for rear echelon troops after adoption of the G11 - but I don‘t know about the missing numbers in between.
    I see what you are referring to on the G1-G4, but afterwards the G11 (1987), G41 (1984) and G36 (1996)!!!

    Tony

  7. #16
    Very Senior Member
    Klaus Von Richter's Avatar
    Join Date : Apr 2015
    Location : Cedar Park,Tx
    Posts : 323
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by AGG View Post
    I believe that the "MP53" was originally classified as an "SMG" (v. an "Assault Rifle") because of the 8.3" barrel, with special muzzle suppressor due to weapon rise caused by the rifle caliber!!!
    The earliest HK33 that I have seen is HK33 013206 (1971).

    Thanks for the pic--- added to my data.
    What are the selector markings, and in what country is this located?


    Tony
    I guess that’s what I’m getting at is would the HK53 be designated a MP( Maschinenpistole) or G( Gewehr) in the Bundeswehr?

  8. #17
    AGG
    AGG is offline
    Unrepentant HKHolic
    AGG's Avatar
    Join Date : Feb 2007
    Location : Alabama
    Posts : 31,409
    Mentioned
    192 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Klaus Von Richter View Post
    I guess that’s what I’m getting at is would the HK53 be designated a MP( Maschinenpistole) or G( Gewehr) in the Bundeswehr?
    Probably "G"!!!

    Tony

  9. #18
    Desperately Needs Treatment
    21HK's Avatar
    Join Date : Mar 2010
    Posts : 1,155
    Mentioned
    22 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by AGG View Post

    Thanks for the pic--- added to my data.
    What are the selector markings, and in what country is this located?

    Tony
    Deactivated in Japan : (

    If the HK53 was adopted by the Bundeswehr-20160218_815772.jpg If the HK53 was adopted by the Bundeswehr-20110328_2272668.jpg

  10. #19
    AGG
    AGG is offline
    Unrepentant HKHolic
    AGG's Avatar
    Join Date : Feb 2007
    Location : Alabama
    Posts : 31,409
    Mentioned
    192 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by 21HK View Post
    Deactivated in Japan : (

    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20160218_815772.jpg 
Views:	122 
Size:	50.4 KB 
ID:	207074 Click image for larger version. 

Name:	20110328_2272668.jpg 
Views:	93 
Size:	67.0 KB 
ID:	207082
    Ahhh--- thanks for the information and pics!!!

    Tony

  11. #20
    HKPRO PREMIUM PARTNER
    HKaltwasser's Avatar
    Join Date : Feb 2009
    Location : Dripping Springs, Tx- Just west of weird.
    Posts : 2,188
    Mentioned
    9 Post(s)

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Klaus Von Richter View Post
    I guess that’s what I’m getting at is would the HK53 be designated a MP( Maschinenpistole) or G( Gewehr) in the Bundeswehr?
    Nothing real special, just an SBR engraving. I'm not real sure how fancy they can get, but the owner was cool and they do some nice ceracote work too. He had a pretty cool flamethrower there too. You have to ring the buzzer at the front of the door.

    https://photos.app.goo.gl/GxKf7hucGVgYbeGA8
    Last edited by HKaltwasser; 06-19-2018 at 01:30 PM.
    A voice from the past whispers in my ear, “Brethren, keep your powder dry.”

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 1 2 3 LastLast

Sponsored Links

 
 

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •