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    So, iv'e just started my journey in trying to understand the complex world of HK Machineguns (Ohboy) And i had a few questions that i'd appreciate having answered.
    I've had my eyes on this bad boy for a little bit, https://dealernfa.com/shop/mp5a3-4-p...nt-h3218-5921/
    buuuut, i'm not completely sold on it yet due to my lack of knowledge, and i feel it would be stupid on my part to spent 42k on a gun that i know little to none about.

    I was hopping someone could break down why this particular gun is so expensive? I figure it's because of the Sear, which is like.. what? 33K And it has an HK 94 host that cost like, 7-8k, right?
    So if i'm correct about that above i am wondering what's the deal about the number on the trigger pack? http://prntscr.com/o7juad Is the outer plastic shell really the registered part here? I thought it would be the Sear on the inside, right?
    And with this particular gun that iv'e linked; you can move the sear around, right?((The little metal piece)) it's not married to that plastic trigger box, is it?

    Sorry for the confusion on my end, i'm just a bit slow. I was told to come here on HKPro for all things HK related, seems like a pretty nice site so far.

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KrooKat View Post
    So, iv'e just started my journey in trying to understand the complex world of HK Machineguns (Ohboy) And i had a few questions that i'd appreciate having answered.
    I've had my eyes on this bad boy for a little bit, https://dealernfa.com/shop/mp5a3-4-p...nt-h3218-5921/
    buuuut, i'm not completely sold on it yet due to my lack of knowledge, and i feel it would be stupid on my part to spent 42k on a gun that i know little to none about.

    I was hopping someone could break down why this particular gun is so expensive? I figure it's because of the Sear, which is like.. what? 33K And it has an HK 94 host that cost like, 7-8k, right?
    So if i'm correct about that above i am wondering what's the deal about the number on the trigger pack? http://prntscr.com/o7juad Is the outer plastic shell really the registered part here? I thought it would be the Sear on the inside, right?
    And with this particular gun that iv'e linked; you can move the sear around, right?((The little metal piece)) it's not married to that plastic trigger box, is it?

    Sorry for the confusion on my end, i'm just a bit slow. I was told to come here on HKPro for all things HK related, seems like a pretty nice site so far.

    Thanks!
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    Answers:

    1. The seller (and sear/trigger pack set up for 4-position)
    2. MP5 (serial) trigger pack
    3. No
    4. Yes
    5. Yes (may need additional work, if modified for 4-position)
    6. No

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    I'll offer a few comments.

    Reuben is known to be on the high end of the market but is 100% rock solid to deal with by all accounts. I purchased an UZI from him (gads!) and the deal was FLAWLESS.

    TSC did the original SBR (Short Barrel Rifle) work based on the tang stamping. Mike does GREAT work. I have a bunch of his guns and could not be happier.

    Fleming sears are the most desirable, though others are very good too. You would be getting a top notch (MGCD - machine gun conversion devise).

    Having it set up in a burst pack is desirable and costs extra. Some on here will bemoan a burst pack under the theory that proper training and practice negates the value. I have a 0-1-2-F (2 round burst) pack and I like it. The way I look at it, I can put an accurate, quick double tap with one trigger squeeze. With the 3 round burst the third round always opens the group somewhat - how much is dependent on your training/practice and what caliber you are shooting. A .308 will open up more than a 9. And, yes, you can move the pack from host to host with a Fleming sear.

    Note that there will be two NFA filings - one for the MGCD (Fleming sear) and one for the SBR so it will cost you $400 in stamps for the transfer one the rig hits your state.

    If you are ready to make this size of financial commitment you will be getting a top notch MP5 set up.

    Maybe the one question to ask Reuben is whether Mike treaded the muzzle 1/2x28 or 1/2x32. The former is more common and easier to find cans for. The latter is the original mother ship route but you would need a Knight's can to screw it on. Of course, you can always use the three lug. I have a Knights can and so Mike treaded mine 1/2x32.

    Best of luck to you and keep us informed with your decision and progress.
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    One more thought. Hosts are like potato chips - you can't just have one. Beware that, before you know it, you will need an MP5-K, MP5-SD, HK53, HK33K, etc:)

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    The number on the front of the lower is meaningless in this case. HK puts serial numbers on various parts. A 100% factory gun would have matching serial numbers on the receiver, lower, and bolt, I believe. Replacement parts, like this lower, will have their own serial numbers, but won’t match the rest of the gun.
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    I purchased an HKG3K sear gun from Reuben. Gun was excellent, great communication and fast shipping. I did not mind paying a little extra for the piece of mind. Also TSC upgraded my HK21 and it was excellent!!!!
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    Also bought MP5k and Fleming sear from Ruben and it was indeed a flawless transaction. I went with him precisely for this reason. A few k is worth it relative to having an ordeal — peace of mind!


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    Your paying a premium as stated above for a flawless transaction. Try sending $38k for same setup to a stranger and come back to us in 11-14 months (ATF wait time) with your tales of many sleepless nights been there done that never again. The whole "Inspected" by Terry Dyer is kind of a Con Reuben runs basically it covers his butt. Now a gun "Built" SBR'd by Terry Dyer thats another story his and TSC builds command a premium. Good luck let us know what you get.
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