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    Quote Originally Posted by WebStrands View Post
    That'd be great, Tony. The problem is that unless they make them here in the US, they wouldn't end up being too classic with the import restrictions.
    Did you forget the title of this post???

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    Yeah ... duly chastised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WebStrands View Post
    Yeah ... duly chastised.
    Just funnin' ya!!!

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    If they are building them here, I would prefer a "military (classic) series" to a "civilian classic." Why make more 9x/sp89/sp5k when you can do semi mp5-N/K-PDW/SD, G3, 51, etc, with all the features minus full auto. US parts counts included, available in factory rifle, pistol, and SBR.

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    Now that would be cool - a factory 51!


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    Any hope for 21 or 23e setups?

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    I think I'll be the bad guy and say it...

    From a business perspective, I don't see the benefit for HK at all for taking the time and effort to churn out legacy roller locks with a few unique exceptions. First, HK Germany has long since discontinued several variants with still only two technically left in their stable (MP5's and the MSG90 A2). I don't know, but are we sure HK has bothered to keep all of those machines for producing these designs? And if they are, the current craftsmen may not be as well versed in making them. Mind you these are just thinking out loud.

    And if HK is trying to get back on its feet financially and pursue current military/defense contracts in EU and the US, why would they take up resources bringing over a lot of old tech? Think outside of HKPro and realize that the roller lock market is a niche' market and as time goes on interest in it dwindles.

    Given the fact that it's still in demand (to some degree) and is likely one of the most iconic commercial HK items (remember there is a world that exists outside of HKPro) is the MP5. It would make sense to me to take the time/trouble to do off-shoot civilian SP5 variants on certain production cycles. For roller locks, it's the least costly with the best potential market penetration.

    Sorry guys, I just don't see your dreams of a 23E, factory 51, and the like being in the cards. However, an SBR-ready SP5 with full-length front end in RAL8000...might have more of a chance...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prdubi View Post
    Any hope for 21 or 23e setups?
    HK cannot make too much money, too quickly!!!

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    My read is that the expansion is exclusively about competing for upcoming US Military tenders that may/will be put out there.

    Initially expanding the footprint of the 416 in the USMC, but beyond that, being the standard issue combat rifle of the US armed forces.

    HK has probably done the math and realized that they cannot compete with FN unless they are HERE.

    That's what it's about today. Once they have a footprint, other things are possible. I would expect anything the company does that is a substantial revenue stream that the socialist government there is giving them grief over will incrementally be moved here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dms16 View Post
    I think I'll be the bad guy and say it...

    From a business perspective, I don't see the benefit for HK at all for taking the time and effort to churn out legacy roller locks with a few unique exceptions. First, HK Germany has long since discontinued several variants with still only two technically left in their stable (MP5's and the MSG90 A2). I don't know, but are we sure HK has bothered to keep all of those machines for producing these designs? And if they are, the current craftsmen may not be as well versed in making them. Mind you these are just thinking out loud.

    And if HK is trying to get back on its feet financially and pursue current military/defense contracts in EU and the US, why would they take up resources bringing over a lot of old tech? Think outside of HKPro and realize that the roller lock market is a niche' market and as time goes on interest in it dwindles.

    Given the fact that it's still in demand (to some degree) and is likely one of the most iconic commercial HK items (remember there is a world that exists outside of HKPro) is the MP5. It would make sense to me to take the time/trouble to do off-shoot civilian SP5 variants on certain production cycles. For roller locks, it's the least costly with the best potential market penetration.

    Sorry guys, I just don't see your dreams of a 23E, factory 51, and the like being in the cards. However, an SBR-ready SP5 with full-length front end in RAL8000...might have more of a chance...
    Your points are valid and some views I've held myself. I can think of three, three letter words that make me think there's something to the legacy roller market yet left for HK should they decide to pursue it. PTR, POF, MKE. These all sell and sell well, most folks blowing up the phones of those who distribute them wondering when the next load will arrive when the shelves are empty. If the two letter word HK started selling these guns again, even for a higher price (not collector prices, absurd) the three letter companies would cease selling and HK would be king of the hill in that market.
    Only HK can decide if there's enough money to be made to justify building the guns again. Still makes me wonder what will end up filling the new facility.
    I don't "run" my guns or "run" anything on them. Likewise, none of my guns are "platforms". I hold them up, not the other way around.

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