@bystok , can we please get a pic of each one of you guys and gals next to each different HK firearm being produced in that plant? I think that will surely keep this thread focused. Thanks in advance!
As to the rest of your post...it appears you are confused, as my use of the word "clone" was in relation to HK's copying the Stoner designed AR and offering it in their product line and has nothing to do with the roller-locked clones from PTR, Zenith, etc..
Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves.
How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think.
Last edited by Crashmc; 11-23-2017 at 10:07 AM.
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I only threw out my experience and pointed out his total lack there of in response to his claims that having a daddy who was a Marine somehow gave him special knowledge. Otherwise I rarely mention my service (on this or other forums) beyond the Semper Fi under my name.Those details you assume I don't know and want me to look up only prove what I have been saying. The HK416 is simply a clone of the AR weapons series, albeit one made to tighter tolerances with a few minor tweaks. None of what HK did with the 416 was groundbreaking nor is it the only AR style rifle that produces sub-MOA accuracy or military grade reliability. HK states the 416's piston design was based on the one from their G36 BUT go back further and the G36 piston was derived from the one in the AR18's 1963 design. Dress it up all you want but underneath the lineage is pure AR.Do some research on the HK416 (search YouTube) as Larry Vickers has a video that will provide you with the details you lack. Here's a clue - the AR-18 wasn't what SpecOps was looking for.
My point wasn't that the HK ARs are bad weapons, hell I'm glad the Corps is buying more (hence the big reason for that new factory) I was simply making the factual observation that HK 's current rifles are indeed simply just another AR variant. And I have zero interest in owning an AR style rifle, no matter whose name is stamped on it.
As to the plant, like I pointed out WAY back in this thread, the increased fielding of the IAR by the Marines and now Army requires a US based manufacturing capacity that the Georgia plant will meet.
I'm sure that bullet passing by his head was a terrifying experience for him. My looking down the nose of the jet coming straight at me, it's wing impaling itself in the railing I was leaning against, was child's play. I never missed the holidays sleeping in some hell of a location half way around the world. Yes, I worked behind a desk to support the fleet with missiles and carrier based aircraft, but that's no comparison to the men and women who are put in situations where they don't know if they are going home standing up or in a box.
.Plus my lack of ownership in no way negates the simple fact that HK's current rifle offerings are just another take on the AR and their newest pistols are not any different then the myriad of other poly guns on the market
So if you don't own any HK products. You think HK products are no different than any other products on the market. Why are you even on this forum. No disrespect but if I'm into American muscle cars I'm definitely not going to be spending my time on a Porsche forum.
Let’s see a photo of the first US produced HK293 receiver! I have a G36C kit patiently waiting.