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    I purchased a Brownells 416 kit last week, and upon further inspection, there are part descreptacies when comparing to my Demilled 416 upper date coded “AG”.

    The upper that I received from brownells has the date code “BA” for a point of reference.

    1. The firing pin is totally different. The one I received from brownells looks like a standard AR firing pin.

    2. The extractor looks nitrided in the brownells kit, versus my nickled extractor from my Demilled 416 kit.

    3. The cam included with the Brownells kit looks also nitrided compared to my nickled cam from my Demilled 416 kit.

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    If you purchased a brownells 416 kit, can you please post pictures of the 3 parts above for confirmation and comparison?

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    There may be other parts too, but I haven’t dug deeper yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by N55 View Post
    I purchased a Brownells 416 kit last week, and upon further inspection, there are part descreptacies when comparing to my Demilled 416 upper date coded “AG”.
    I saw dozens of upper part kits and complete part kits. The parts in your pics look like the ones I saw, different firing pins, cam pins etc.

    These are genuine HK parts. Possible that Brownells had to replace a part if it was missing but what I see in your pics is the real deal.

    Dead giveaway that the firing pin is HK: AR firing pins don't work in the 416 Bolt heads.......

    Do you get the kit in the HK box labeled "Teilesatz zu Gewehr HK416" and serial number?

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    If you compare an HK and AR firing pin, you can see why AR pins don't work. They don't protrude enough to strike the primer. The tip of the HK pin is smaller in diameter.

    HK pin on the left AR on the right.

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    This right here would stop me from getting one.
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    Looks like you got a "gen 1" 416 firing pin. From what I understand, they completely lack the HK safety but should work with most AR triggers.

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    Does the gen 1 firing pin function fine in the gen 2 carrier?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwissCollector View Post
    I saw dozens of upper part kits and complete part kits. The parts in your pics look like the ones I saw, different firing pins, cam pins etc.

    These are genuine HK parts. Possible that Brownells had to replace a part if it was missing but what I see in your pics is the real deal.

    Dead giveaway that the firing pin is HK: AR firing pins don't work in the 416 Bolt heads.......

    Do you get the kit in the HK box labeled "Teilesatz zu Gewehr HK416" and serial number?

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    Interesting! My box is labeled “teilesatz zu gewehr 416”.

    My friend bought two of the brownells kits and he received much better parts. He got a BE date code upper with a S - N marked Handguard, E1 charging handle, Sling looped vented gas block and sling loop received end plate.

    His firing pin, extractor and cam resembled the Demilled kit.

    Thank you very much for your expertise!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by N55 View Post

    Interesting! My box is labeled “teilesatz zu gewehr 416”.

    My friend bought two of the brownells kits and he received much better parts. He got a BE date code upper with a S - N marked Handguard, E1 charging handle, Sling looped vented gas block and sling loop received end plate.

    His firing pin, extractor and cam resembled the Demilled kit.

    Thank you very much for your expertise!!
    Then you got a part kit from a complete gun. There were also just upper part kits in boxes labeled as such.

    All kinds of date codes were available, the newest I personally saw was BE and it had the features you mentioned. The newer ones also had the carriers with the new style firing pin retaining pin instead of the cotter pin.

    I don‘t know when they changed the firing pin. I have an MR223A1 which I bought just months after they were released and it already has the new firing pin.

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    What date code does your MR223A1 have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakelandman View Post
    This right here would stop me from getting one.
    All of these parts are genuine HK parts as they basically clean out their stocks. With a coming European wide gun law, many of these parts will no longer be made available to the public. How many of us have read in the past of regrets of not buying such and such when it was available and now the price is crazy? In a short time these parts will be off the market and there is only one way for prices to go when there is a demand and no supply.

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