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And so it begins: 9mm USC to 16" UMP Conversion and links to ALL UMP Conversion Info!

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And so it begins: 9mm USC to 16" UMP Conversion and links to ALL UMP Conversion Info!

Well I *think* I’m the first person to undertake this particular conversion although I believe others have already done the 9mm UMP conversion with the 8” Barrel (feel free to chime in here guys! :)).

My main purpose here is to actually create a place with ALL the links and other information needed to complete a DIY USC to UMP conversion of any caliber.

First let me say this article is in NO way to say that you should not use any of the vendors that offer this conversion, rather than simply a place to find links and other pertinent info for those of us who really enjoy cutting up a brand new gun :D

Links to Machining Information for Conversion:
A VERY Basic Guide, read this first to get an idea of what needs to be done:
http://tradecraft.us/Firearms/HowToUMP/HowToUMP.htm

A VERY DETAILED Guide, read this when you have your parts and are ready for specs!
http://home.comcast.net/~UMPlower/

UMP Foregrip Vent Location:
http://myweb.cableone.net/jsheffi31/Slots.htm

UMP Mag Well Template
http://hkpro.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1743&stc=1&d=1188954110

UMP/USC Parts Comparisons (See Gallery)
www.tacticalexcellence.com

NFA Information that may be helpful when doing conversions:
http://www.top-notchparts.com/atf_nfa_letters.htm

Links to Suppliers for Conversion Parts (The ones I personally used)
Adam Webber HK4Evr www.hkparts.net
Ed HDPS www.hdps.org
Top Notch Parts www.top-notchparts.com
Other Suppliers of Note:
Gordon Miller - www.hkspecialist.net
Phil Flack - [email protected]
Clyde Armory - www.policeguns.com

Now that I’ve got the basics out of the way I’m going to document what’s needed to do this conversion AND change calibers. I couldn’t find a lot of the information I needed easily such as how much I needed to change the bolt, 16” barrel suppliers ect. Let me start off by saying that while the regular 45ACP UMP conversion is actually very reasonable if you buy parts from the suppliers listed above, changing calibers can be VERY EXPENSIVE; you have been warned :D

Caliber Specific Conversion Parts:
Bolt Assembly
Barrell
Magazines

I bought all of the above parts (and parts for all my other guns) from Adam Webber (www.hkparts.net) and I can’t say enough about him and his service; amazing! Now before you go and call/email/homing pigeon ect Adam, he doesn’t have any more 9mm parts but does have plenty of 45 and I believe even some 40 parts. I will warn you that in my experience the 9mm parts may as well be made from un-obtainium as I had a HELL of a time finding ANYTHING in 9mm.

By now you are asking "Why the hell would he want 9mm?" Well the answer is relatively simple; I like 9mm :) All of my other guns (with the exception of the AR) are 9mm.

I was able to find ONE supplier that made a handful of 16” .40/9mm barrels and that was Top Notch. According to the gentleman I spoke to when I ordered he believed I was the first to buy one of the 16” units but still had a few left. I also bought an 8” HK barrel from Adam on the odd chance that someday Michigan will allow SBR (HA!).

The Parts:
HK 8” UMP 9mm Barrel, 9mm Magazine, 9mm Bolt Group (.45/.40/9mm all use the same recoil rod BTW) and some extra barrel pins.



Now that I’ve got these parts I’ll start to document what you need to do to the bolt to assemble this thing as well as updating this when my 16” Barrel arrives and how the gunfunctions/looks ect. I hope this post will help some people not have to search for hours to find information like I did!
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Now that I’ve got these parts
I hate you. I want a 9mm UMP :(

I'd even settle for an MP5 style 9mm clone.

On a side note, the AG has put together a two panels of experts (term used VERY loosely), one to report all the positive aspects of allowing suppressors and SBR's in Michigan. Then also a panel to report what negative affects it would have.

When they finish, years from now, he will use that to help make is decision.

Personally, I can't think of too much negative. It's just a waiting game now.
 

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I'm sure keeping an eye on this. I want to hear how it turns out.

I'm high interested in a 9mm USC/UMP conversion. I've asked about everyone I know in law enforcement to try and help me track down this bolt.
 

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I know this thread started as a 9mm conversion thread but it would appear its got a bunch of general USC to UMP conversion info too.

Here is an alternative for all you guys bitching about having to buy an expensive barrel as your 3rd 922r compliance part when you have a perfectly good HK factory 16 inch barrel.

Fresh of the CNC machines, the new HDPS US Made Steel Trigger.

http://intrastar.net/~kdogg/guns/hk_uscump/hdps_us_trigger.jpg

No comment on pricing as its not officially listed for sale on HDPS.org yet. I was lucky enough to get my hands on one of the first production runs. Just came in the mail overnight Express. Keep an eye on HDPS.org or contact Ed for more info and pricing.
 
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