Anyone building nice MP5SD pistol clones yet?
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Where have you been? Coharie built some and had a fire sale a couple of years ago. I got the rifle for $1500. Others got the pistol version. It's got a stainless can so it's a little front heavy. But quiet.
Some of the builders here like GhillieBear and Chopstix build them too, I think. I'm sure someone will join in here soon.
Some of the builders here like GhillieBear and Chopstix build them too, I think. I'm sure someone will join in here soon.
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In that "fire sale" I bought a CA89 SD pistol. As "Retro" said, the CA can is stainless steel. My CA SD can weighs a little over two lbs. RCM is going to be having a run of SD cans. I sent Mike at RCM my CA SD can. He said that the CA can was an exact copy of the cans that they used to make for CA, except that the RCM cans are made from aluminum instead of SS. Mike said that since the CA specs are the same, he could do an "upgrade" by changing the internals of the CA SD can with his aluminum SD internals. That would lighten the can by around 1 1/2 lbs. If your interested in an "upgrade" or an all aluminum SD can contact Mike at RCM. To me since I already have the SS CA SD can, the "upgrade" would be a lot less than a new RCM SD can.
I'm having Jeff build me a couple more SD pistols. HK Parts has a US made SD front end kit with a RCM SD barrel and trunnion. HK Parts also has a complete US made RCM SD bolt group for around $450. I already have some SW full size 9mm receivers, so add a mag catch assembly, rear sight, semi trigger group, and pistol end cap, Jeff can build a SD pistol. The RCM, CA, and HK factory use the same general specs for the barrels so both the CA and RCM SD cans will interchange. While it would be cool to use a factory SD parts set, at over $2,000 for a HK SD parts set, I'd rather use brand new US made parts. Unless I could see the HK parts set myself, I'd worry about getting a bulged barrel. Good luck with your SD pistol project.
Scott
I'm having Jeff build me a couple more SD pistols. HK Parts has a US made SD front end kit with a RCM SD barrel and trunnion. HK Parts also has a complete US made RCM SD bolt group for around $450. I already have some SW full size 9mm receivers, so add a mag catch assembly, rear sight, semi trigger group, and pistol end cap, Jeff can build a SD pistol. The RCM, CA, and HK factory use the same general specs for the barrels so both the CA and RCM SD cans will interchange. While it would be cool to use a factory SD parts set, at over $2,000 for a HK SD parts set, I'd rather use brand new US made parts. Unless I could see the HK parts set myself, I'd worry about getting a bulged barrel. Good luck with your SD pistol project.
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There's this little company in Michigan call Dakota Tactical. Bummer is that they have a super long wait list something like 8-12 months, the owner hardly ever answers his phone (but he does call you back--often times while grocery shipping late at night), and he's typically is only online when he's sitting on the toilet. Oh, and his voice mail on his phone is fubar'd so you have to text message him.
But... I hear they build a super nice SD, guaranteed to be one of the nicest, if not thee nicest SD clone you can buy and they are not that much more money that the other builders that can be found here. So if you don't mind waiting and long time and having your phone calls temporarily ignored, you will eventually get a firearm that many hail to be the next best thing to a real HK.
But... I hear they build a super nice SD, guaranteed to be one of the nicest, if not thee nicest SD clone you can buy and they are not that much more money that the other builders that can be found here. So if you don't mind waiting and long time and having your phone calls temporarily ignored, you will eventually get a firearm that many hail to be the next best thing to a real HK.
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Hey that sounds like a really cool company chops!! Lol. Hey, why don't you just hire me to be phone intake? It'd make things easier on ya!
To the op, chops does great work, Jayson at IGF makes these, ghilliebear2000 makes these and black market parts sells completed barreled uppers. Just depends how much, how long and how good you want it.
To the op, chops does great work, Jayson at IGF makes these, ghilliebear2000 makes these and black market parts sells completed barreled uppers. Just depends how much, how long and how good you want it.
I think I've heard of this outfit or seen the name on my dwindling bank statement? All jokes aside, when I was looking for a high quality clone recently I read about every one on the market and researched most of the Smiths doing MP5 builds. "Joe at Dakota Tactical" kept coming up in my conversations with others far more knowledgeable than I am about these guns. I don't mind waiting for a quality product so a couple of weeks ago, I took my place in Joe's 6-8 mos. line. Can't wait!
I have two of Joe's MP 5 clones, a Navy and an F. Both are works of art and run better than my friends HK MP 5's (he is a class three dealer). Of course Joe taught me the secret of keeping the extractor spring adjusted, but I am sure he would do the same for you too.
Definitely worth the wait, I have a G 36 conversion somewhere in the queue as well.
T
Definitely worth the wait, I have a G 36 conversion somewhere in the queue as well.
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I don't make cans, yet. But yes, if/when I do make them I'll be able to transfer it direct. I need to get with Mike over at RCM to see if his are oversized like the Coharie cans. If they are, the cocking tube support needs to be machined for clearance; something that I am not fond of. Much of what I decide on cans is going to depend on whether or not the RCM cans are oversized or not.
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Recently I sent Mike my CA SD can. It is my understanding that RCM made the original cans for Todd's SDs. Mike said that the recent production CA SD cans (I bought my CA89 SD during the "Going Out Of Roller Locked Guns" sale for $1,450 including the can) are made exactly like the RCM cans except the RCM SD cans are aluminum and the CA SD cans are stainless steel. Mike said that once RCM goes into production on the next set of cans, he could replace my SS internals with aluminum internals as an "upgrade". The US front end SD kit that Adam (HK Parts) sells has a machined cocking tube like the CA guns. Good luck with the SD project.
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Please let me know. I would rather just get the complete SD pistol from you including the can. That way I can submit the forms and hopefully have a complete SD by the time the stamp comes back.
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