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what are u looking for?
1. im no longer local
2. i have a usc
3. i know where u can find parts on the net

best of luck
 

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One tip about USC parts - since they are still in production, you can likely order them brand new straight from HK for much less than 2nd hand on the internet.

Case in point - I was wanting to keep a full set of trigger parts in my USC lower even though I have converted mine to a UMP. Prices on various groups for the fire control parts were $200, or upwards of $300 for the full lower. I ordered all of them from HK (no housing of course, didn't need one) for just $58, they just came in today on Fedex.
 

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trying to make usc look like ump

order straight from hk hmm doent seem to bad, I am trying to make my usc look like a ump but its hard getting all the parts. Alot of sites dont ship to newyork. I have been talking to ed montana from hdps.com about dying my rifle black does anyone know how good his work is and what do you guys think of his parts?
 

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i've heard Ed does great work. He hasn't returned my calls yet. But the pics of his work look good. I would go w/ Jeff Smith at Tactical Excellence first, but he isn't doing this anymore. http://www.tacticalexcellence.com/
http://www.top-notchparts.com/
http://www.subguns.org/products/mags/
http://www.hkspecialist.net/mags.htm

Make sure you read my thread on how to dye your rifle. You can do it yourself. it's a sticky in the Rookie Section.

Bad News
you can't do the ump conversion in NY.

you could do a grease gun conversion. the M3 Grease gun mags are pre-ban and therefore legal. But a 25rd UMP mag is illegal b/c they were made post ban.

Good news is the grease gun conversion is cheaper and legal.

Good luck.
 

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Anyone know what kind of fye to use

What kind of dye do you use?, would it be hard? Where do you get it local gun shop or hardware store?
 

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yeah conversion is a negative in NY State for many reasons, especially the barrel length rule.

Also as a general rule, if they don't ship to NY there's usually good reasons why. You might find someone that might ship to NY eventually, but in the process be breaking the law without realizing it. NY puts the burden of fault on the purchaser. Just because someone will ship it to NY doesn't mean it's necessarily legal to do so. Please be careful. We'd hate to see anyone here in the HK boards get into any trouble.
 

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Yea I know, I'm not trying to make it an sbr I'm just trying to get a few parts like the folding stock which most sites dont ship to ny.
 

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dye instructions:
http://myweb.cableone.net/jsheffi31/...g Method.htm

btw welcome to the family. i learn stuff here all the time.

i've been reading that guys have used coolers w/ better results than the tin pans. keeps the water hotter longer. the hotter longer = better penetration and darker coloring. read the threads on how to properly dye and see the results very good looking.

here's more info: http://www.top-notchparts.com/Picture.jpg this is what it would look like. this you could do in NY. I don't think you can have the folding stock b/c the folding stock has a pistol grip. here's the list of the assault weapon laws, i'm worried about NYC laws too.
http://hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52130

btw, rit dye is sold at WalMart and many other places.

An "assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher; or (b) a semiautomatic shotgun that has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a fixed magazine capacity in excess of five rounds; (iv) an ability to accept a detachable magazine; or (c) a semiautomatic pistol that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip; (ii) a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender, flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer; (iii) a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the non-trigger hand without being burned; (iv) a manufactured weight of fifty ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; (v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (Sc-70); (iv) Colt Ar-15;(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M 10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr Aug; (viii) Intratec TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) Revolving Cylinder Shotguns, such as (or Similar to) the Streetsweeper and Striker 12; (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (a) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide-action; (b) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (c) is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition; (iii) a semiautomatic shotgun that cannot hold more than five rounds of ammunition in a fixed or detachable magazine; (iv) a rifle, shotgun or pistol, or a replica or a duplicate thereof, specified in appendix A to section 922 of 18 U.S.C. as such weapon was manufactured on October 1, 1993. The mere fact that a weapon is not listed in appendix A shall not be construed to mean that such weapon is an assault weapon; or (v) a semiautomatic rifle, a semiautomatic shotgun or a semiautomatic pistol or any of the weapons defined in paragraph (d) of this subdivision lawfully possessed prior to September 14, 1994.
 

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Yea I know, I'm not trying to make it an sbr I'm just trying to get a few parts like the folding stock which most sites dont ship to ny.
Can't have folding stock as it will be considered an assault weapon, which is why they won't ship.
 

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ok thanks dmg for the link ill make sure ill try this on my gun this weekend seems like this is the best method.
 

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Can't have folding stock as it will be considered an assault weapon, which is why they won't ship.
Mue, correct me ifI wrong, HKKing is not in NYC (meaning in NYS but outside of the five boroughs) I believe he can have the folding stock. Remember that with the current rules in place in NYC, he's not even suppose to have the USC at all. NYS rules are slightly more relaxed, but I could be wrong on the stock.
 

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nope, no folding stock b/c it would have a pistol grip too. that's the two conditions and therefore banned. read my long, long post above. that is the law as copied from the NYSRPA for NYS.

good to talk to you ironchef.
 

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u can always add the m3 grease gun conversion. at least be hi cap that way.

other option is hk94 or clone. those mags are mostly if not all preban.

i had a 91 w/100 mags in NY, completely legal.
 

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Mue, correct me ifI wrong, HKKing is not in NYC (meaning in NYS but outside of the five boroughs) I believe he can have the folding stock. Remember that with the current rules in place in NYC, he's not even suppose to have the USC at all. NYS rules are slightly more relaxed, but I could be wrong on the stock.
Long barrel rules are state wide in determining what's considered an assault style gun. NYC has additional restrictions on top of that, but the assault classification is the same.
 

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thnaks for they dying method turned out great but it was a bitch gettin that barrel pin out
 

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another satisfied customer!
 
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