So you are in agreement with my comment then, yet you still say I am wrong. You just admitted there was "no mistake" made in the parts for the rifles just that, like I said, they did it on purpose and their attempt didn't turn out like they thought it would.
I'm sorry. I thought we were debating if they did anything wrong. Not that they intentionally did something wrong when making the gun. I guess I'll make my points more clear to avoid confusion:
1. They goofed up the design by sending the wrong dimensions to Thompson for manufacturing the barrels.
2. They claimed they did it on purpose to make a more accurate rifle.
3. They claimed that the initial disclaimer was clear enough to make the problem the fault of the buyer.
4. They offered no resolution to unsatisfied customer.
5. They created a new model called the GI to re-enforce their story and capture the part (majority) of the market that wanted the traditional capabilities of a battle rifle.
6. People are reporting problems with the new design working correctly with surplus ammo.
7. Their disclaimer, at the time, was almost exactly worded like every other gun manufacturer's statements, making it seem just as meaningless, thereby misleading.maybe not in court, but certainly in the real world.
Ok, I added 5 and 6 and 7 because that stuff is going on but I just hadn't brought it up previously. Just figured that since I was listing my points of displeasure with them, I might as well list them all.
Even with all that, I'd still buy a gun from them. As I stated before, I think they make some very good ones and don't mind supporting them. So all in all, I guess they got away with it. But I still reserve my right to bitch about it from time to time. Especially when a new shooter shows up and asks about shooting certain types of ammo in one of these guns. And that's what happened in this thread.
Just remember also that an undisclosed number of these "special" guns are floating around out there. People are buying them and then learning that they won't do what they think they should. I'm here to warn them, so they don't get told by PTR that they are dumb after the purchase. Ok, not so much told as greatly implied. If anything, I'm keeping people from getting pissed off at PTR, in my own self-therapeutic way.
I guess I also don't approve of the design in this gun to some level. A barrel should only be chambered like this on an obvious target rifle, like a PSG-1 clone, or something similar, and then have a very detailed marketing description stating that it has a high precision chamber with tolerances too tight for surplus or steel case ammo. IIRC the tar sealed stuff is a problem also. It all turned my gun into a bolt action.