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Anything is possible. There is enough material to use or cut away on the USP or you could use an adapter plate.
 

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I don't know about the burris unit, but there is a docter optic sight base and a Trij RMR adaptor that will do it. There have been a few threads recently with links to purchase the bases. If you find the threads and follow the links, you may find one for the Burris...
 

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This one on a P7 was custom made. I found the thread by searching 'docter'. There are threads that describe what was done.


 

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Mark Housel is putting an InSight MRDS on one of my USPc .40s... when I can get the sight to him. I prefer the 7MOA version, and those have been unobtainium lately. But I found a vendor who claimed to have one, and ordered it Monday. It should be here soon, and I'll send it on its way to Mark.

There is a bit of finessing involved in mounting these things on an HK; its not as easy a job as it is on a VolksPistole (Glock, M&P, etc.). I suggest you contact Mark (he has a web site) and discuss it with him.

However... I would re-consider the FastFire. I have two of those, one on a 1911 and the other on a S&W M-41. Both are target pistols. The Burris unit seems a bit... well, fragile, for this sort of thing (fighting pistol). Plus they are a flaming PITA to zero, as is the Docter, JPoint, and that genre. I have the Trijicon copy of the Docter on a pair of G19s, done by Bowie.

IMO, the MRDS or RMR is a smarter choice for a serious pistol, because they are undoubtedly more durable, and have repeatable click adjustments for zeroing.

Anyway, talk with Mark Housel. He has mounted a few RDS units on HKs already, and I have confidence that the MRDS install on my USPc will be a success as well. This is a really neat idea that is starting to take off. It is THE solution for "old man eyes", which I'm afflicted with. Those two G19s are delightful pistols, easy to carry and shoot... but they're not HKs. Try as I might, I simply could not bring myself to return to the ranks of the unwashed, VolksPistole-toting masses...:wink:

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Thanks for all the info! LSP, I'll look into contacting Mark and seeing what the best way to go is.
 

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Thanks for all the info! LSP, I'll look into contacting Mark and seeing what the best way to go is.
Understand that some folks here are talking about fitting an adapter plate into the existing rear sight dovetail and slapping the sight on that. This is most definitely unsat, from several standpoints. It makes the gun look dorky, is not really practical for concealed carry, and presents issues with point of impact at differing distances due to the offset of the sight line vs the bore line. An example of this is in post #5.

What I'm talking about is machining away metal to inlet the sight "into" the slide, as shown in post #3. Big difference, and why you must proceed carefully with this.

While we're on the topic, another aspect is the BUIS. There is a disagreement right now among the folks who are building these guns... should the rear sight be in front of, or behind, the dot sight? Most of these guys (and there aren't but a few of them) insist that these iron sights are absolutely necessary to aid in learning how to "pick up the dot" quickly and repeatably. To that end, they are advocating (and using) these huge sights intended for suppressor-equipped pistols.

YMMV, but I find these rather over-the-top... as in unnecessary. I have been shooting my Bowie G19s for almost two years, on and off. They have the Trijicon copy of a Docter, which has a small notch in the rear of the base that can be used as a rear sight in conjunction with the existing front sight, if necessary. This arrangement is quite small and hard to see, but it CAN be used if one has plenty of time. Somehow, I managed to learn how to "pick up the dot" without a set of huge irons to "guide me".

Its all about modifying your presentation, i.e. the angle of your wrists. You have to slightly depress the angle you normally hold the pistol at, so the red dot will come into view. It sounds confusing, but isn't. The first time you pick one up, you'll know what I'm talking about.

At any rate... be very cautious and tentative as you explore this. It represents a considerable sum to get up and running, and you don't want to have to switch horses in mid-stream, as I did. I now own two very expensive safe queens that I will never be able to recoup my investment on.

Even more importantly, be VERY cautious about who you listen to. The "tribal warlord" and his mutual admiration society do some good wook, but to hear them talk "their way" is the only way. Not by a long shot...

Feel free to PM me if you have any other detailed questions. I will be posting the results of my HK foray once I get it and get several thousand rounds through it.

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Understand that some folks here are talking about fitting an adapter plate into the existing rear sight dovetail and slapping the sight on that. This is most definitely unsat, from several standpoints. It makes the gun look dorky, is not really practical for concealed carry, and presents issues with point of impact at differing distances due to the offset of the sight line vs the bore line. An example of this is in post #5.

What I'm talking about is machining away metal to inlet the sight "into" the slide, as shown in post #3. Big difference, and why you must proceed carefully with this.

While we're on the topic, another aspect is the BUIS. There is a disagreement right now among the folks who are building these guns... should the rear sight be in front of, or behind, the dot sight? Most of these guys (and there aren't but a few of them) insist that these iron sights are absolutely necessary to aid in learning how to "pick up the dot" quickly and repeatably. To that end, they are advocating (and using) these huge sights intended for suppressor-equipped pistols.

YMMV, but I find these rather over-the-top... as in unnecessary. I have been shooting my Bowie G19s for almost two years, on and off. They have the Trijicon copy of a Docter, which has a small notch in the rear of the base that can be used as a rear sight in conjunction with the existing front sight, if necessary. This arrangement is quite small and hard to see, but it CAN be used if one has plenty of time. Somehow, I managed to learn how to "pick up the dot" without a set of huge irons to "guide me".

Its all about modifying your presentation, i.e. the angle of your wrists. You have to slightly depress the angle you normally hold the pistol at, so the red dot will come into view. It sounds confusing, but isn't. The first time you pick one up, you'll know what I'm talking about.

At any rate... be very cautious and tentative as you explore this. It represents a considerable sum to get up and running, and you don't want to have to switch horses in mid-stream, as I did. I now own two very expensive safe queens that I will never be able to recoup my investment on.

Even more importantly, be VERY cautious about who you listen to. The "tribal warlord" and his mutual admiration society do some good wook, but to hear them talk "their way" is the only way. Not by a long shot...

Feel free to PM me if you have any other detailed questions. I will be posting the results of my HK foray once I get it and get several thousand rounds through it.

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I'll try and shoot you a PM tomorrow when I have more time to gather my thoughts. That is if I can access HKPro from base.
 

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I'm liking what I am seeing I wonder if you could have a machinist cut a cover like the FNX 45 tactical has so you don't have to always have the red dot mounted.
 

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USP quik mount
Here it is on my 40. With the comp
The quik mount instruction card says it will work on any usp variant. But I haven't tried it on the 45
(the quik comp is 40 only)
And I'm looking to put the Burris on there the sig red dot is just to show the mount


 
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