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After three layoffs, between the wife and myself, in 2 years, I've been cleared to get a gun with my Tax return. I've been researching for months now, and have settled on a USPc .45APC LEM (EIEIO, ESPN, etc.).

However... I've never found, or even heard it discussed.

Does H&K make a factory pistol such as this, or will I have to purchase a V7 DAO and install the LEM Trigger myself?
 

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With some looking you should be able to get a USPc 45 in LEM just fine. You will have to find one, most of the ones I have seen for sale are V1's. You may be able to find an HK45c LEM easier, but if you are really into the USP then it might take some looking. You can always buy the pistol and get the LEM trigger later.
 

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It does in fact exist. HK Specialist had a bunch on trade in not long ago. If you need/want new, you might be a bit screwed. If you are OK with used, I know a guy who has too much crap and would be willing to sell you a used one.
 

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Buy new V1...then do conversion yourself for less than $100. IMO
 

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So, does the LEM Kit turn the gun into a DAO (V7) also, or JUST add a lighter trigger? I want to get rid of the safety and decocker.
 

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If you buy a NEW USPC .45 V7 it will be LEM, but it will be the standard LEM which is the 8 pound pull. If you want the lighter LEM then you need to either special order which will take a long time, or buy the standard LEM V7 and send it to HK for conversion, or convert yourself.
If you look at the old variant chart it shows the V7 as being the old heavy DAO, but that changed a couple of years ago. Now, the V7 IS the LEM variant, just buy one that is from 20010 or 2011, and double check before you buy.

Check by racking the slide and make sure the pistol is clear. Lower the slide, pull the trigger, pull it again without doing anything. If the first and second pull feel the same, it is the old DAO and an 11 pound pull. If the first pull is light, the second heavy, then it is the LEM with the 8 pound pull and when you pull again without racking the slide, you are fully loading the hammer yourself and will have an 11 pound pull. Not much but you will feel the difference.

If you buy a V1 and the LEM kit, the kit will come with a new hammer axle which gets rid of the safety. Or you can retain the safety if you want to, choice is yours.
And yes, the LEM kit does turn a V1 SA/DA into a DAO. There is some wrong information above. The LEM has always been a DAO trigger, I don't understand how anyone can say otherwise since even HK says it is a DAO trigger.
From HK-USA: "Developed especially for a U.S. government agency, the Law Enforcement Modification (or LEM for short), is a unique trigger mechanism created specifically to improve the trigger performance and reduce the weight of the Double-Action Only (DAO) trigger pull on HK pistols."

link for more information on LEM
 
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