[ew1439]

I was looking on GB and came across this full auto trigger pack for sale:

HK MP5 and others full auto trigger pack : Class 3 Parts & Accessories at GunBroker.com

I know you can buy them and convert them, but isn't it a little illegal to notch the box so it might fit on a semi shelf. It looks complete with the trip and all. Wouldn't this make a machinegun out of a semi gun? Just wondering.

 

[bwp777]

From what I understand, the trigger pack w/ a gun that fits would get you in serious trouble. I would stay away unless you plan on making it semi for a semi gun.

 

[CZ-75]

Don't buy that unless you have the proper SOT.

 

[Shattered Mind]

Oh man... serious bad Ju-Ju. That's a ready to go full auto setup with no paperwork... for an MP5/clone. The value? 20 years vacation at Club Fed and $250K (?) fine? I'm going to stay so far away from that that I'm not even going to email the dope.

 

[JeepGuy79]

that isnt cut enough to clear a shelf is it?

 

[bitsy]

the ad discribes the pack as being sold for spares.
Couldn't someone buy this to fill out a registered trigger pack or to keep as spares?

 

[N4KVE]

that isnt cut enough to clear a shelf is it?

Exactly. It would have to be cut out alot more than that to fit over the shelf. So much so that the front pin has to be moved like on the semi packs. Right? GARY N4KVE

 

[ew1439]

that isnt cut enough to clear a shelf is it?

Comparing it to the registered box for sale on the marketplace, it isn't cut back as much.....

 

[rickj1nd]

Exactly. It would have to be cut out alot more than that to fit over the shelf. So much so that the front pin has to be moved like on the semi packs. Right? GARY N4KVE

Nope - ATF only specifies a cut that far back to take out the auto catch hole. This pack will fit a semi shelf and if it wasn't registered, it is contraband. You can refer to Shattered's post for all the "benefits" of possessing it!

 

[The Stig]

I'm confused. What cut are you guys talking about? It just looks like a stock F/A SEF Box to me from his photos. You can buy those all day long on CTD with a plastic SEF housing for $60. I'm guessing someone bought it for the plastic housing so they could clip and pin it for a semi-auto, and now they are just getting rid of the worthless (to them) F/A parts and box.

 

[straightgrain]

The front of the metal "cage" has been notched. This is a no no unless you have been given the official okey dokey from ATF.

 

[99HMC4]

By cutting the shelf relief he made it post sample and I'm sure there's no serial number on it either...

 

[The Stig]

I'm pretty sure they all come notched like that from the factory.

See: HK SEF Full Auto Trigger Pack 9mm - HKPARTS.NET

Compared to a semi-box's notch: HK Trigger Pack Frame Semi Incomplete - HKPARTS.NET

I don't think that F/A box has been modified at all, nor do I think you could get it to fit a S/A receiver with a shelf without more modification. Every F/A pack I have ever seen has the small notch at the front.

 

[Shattered Mind]

that isnt cut enough to clear a shelf is it?

Yepper, it is.

 

[Shattered Mind]

I'm confused. What cut are you guys talking about? It just looks like a stock F/A SEF Box to me from his photos. You can buy those all day long on CTD with a plastic SEF housing for $60. I'm guessing someone bought it for the plastic housing so they could clip and pin it for a semi-auto, and now they are just getting rid of the worthless (to them) F/A parts and box.

Look a bit closer to the bottom front of the trigger box... see dat notch? Not supposed to be there. No notch at all. That looks perilously close to somebody had made an illegal HK firearm and now is trying to "off" the illegal part.

 

[Shattered Mind]

I'm pretty sure they all come notched like that from the factory. I don't think that F/A box has been modified at all, nor do I think you could get it to fit a S/A receiver with a shelf without more modification. Every F/A pack I have ever seen has the small notch at the front.

You need to look again at the pack for sale and the pics you yourself posted. It's plain as day somebody notched the front of that trigger pack. As it sits right now, that's a full auto pack that will fit AND WORK on any semi shelf gun.

 

[The Stig]

Hmmm. Perhaps you're right. I just can't believe anyone would be that stupid, but I am now convinced that notch at the front was cut, and isn't the notch I'm used to seeing -- think the angle of his photos threw me for a second.

 

[FRANK]

Yikes .........
The dumb is strong in this GB feller !

 

[99HMC4]

Hmmm. Perhaps you're right. I just can't believe anyone would be that stupid, but I am now convinced that notch at the front was cut, and isn't the notch I'm used to seeing -- think the angle of his photos threw me for a second.

Not perhaps but so. Remember, you can't blame him for his mistake when you were sure only a few posts above it was an un modified pack....

 

[The Stig]

Sure you can. He has the part in his hand. I'm looking at it from over 1,000 miles away in some photos he likely snapped with his cell phone. I usually start from the stand point of giving people the benefit of the doubt. You know, that whole innocent until proven guilty thing. After carefully looking at the photos again, especially the second and the fourth photos, you can see in the fourth where the cut was made because there is no finish in that spot. I'm convinced it was cut. I don't know if he cut it or not, but he's in possession of it.