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As previously stated multiple times in other places.

Haenel did some things better than HK, they also did some things much worse. If weight is a factor for you, you're barking up the wrong tree either way.

At least in EU, you get chromelined MR223a3's.

The "same guy worked on" thing is tired. If you're gonna play that game, gotta swallow the Sig 516 as well (hardly an improvement over the 416).

 

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For my use, is useless, i don't use 223/556 for shoot more then 100 metres, so...

Is your "use" determined by a 3rd party...like your gun range by chance?

 

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where can you find better quality on the HK?

the ambi comands on the hk for me they are inferior, the hk ambi mag release can broke very easly, the ambi bolt release on the A3 is useless, difficult to reach with the indes if you are right anded and difficult to operate if you are left handed.

The barrel for one. The Mr223a3 is chrome line...the CR isn't.

The controls thing is subjective. Many of the ambi controls aren't as necessary as people believe and their presentation is a mixed bag for sure. These "difficulties" you speak of are as much software problems as they are hardware.

 

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Chrome lining is mainly beneficial for sustained automatic/machinegun fire. I wouldn’t consider it an absolute benefit.

I assure you there are many that do.

 

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Chrome lining is mainly beneficial for sustained automatic/machinegun fire. I wouldn’t consider it an absolute benefit.

Yeah, my old Colt Match HBAR would say otherwise. Somehow a 20k+ barrel life in a 5.56 is far more appealing than 6-8k

Nitride actually has superior corrosion resistance than chrome.

But going to your scenario, assuming that chrome lining offered absolute protection, it won't help much if you don't treat other critical operational parts similarly, like gas tubes, piston assemblies, springs, bolt carrier group components, etc - if a non-chrome barrel would have deteriorated from neglect to the point of lost accuracy, you can assume then the operating components will have lost reliability and will be giving you more stoppages. If you're using corrosive ammo like 7N6 in an AK74, your bore is going to corrode without cleaning regardless of its being chrome-lined.



You know, that's funny. On their roller lock product lines, HK didn't chrome line any of their civilian or military barrels, with the exception of the HK21 and HK23.

Everything from the MP5 to the HK33/93 and the HK 91/G3 isn't chrome lined. Sure their more modern offerings are, but that isn't turning anyone off from buying a SP5 today or making 80s HK 9X imports less desirable.

At the end of the day, if you aren't rapid-firing at high volume, whether manually or with a DIAS/RR or a post-sample, you are unlikely to notice the benefits of a chrome-lined barrel.

All of the guns in this picture have a few things in common - they aren't chrome-lined, and their government versions with giggle switches have all been deemed fit for military/LE use.

1) 9mm pressure and velocity won't wear down a barrel like a rifle caliber and can reach round counts in stainless barrels that chrome-lined rifles can not. The 93/33 was more or less a commercial failure and the 55x use is rather limited as well.

2) I firmly believe (if these are your guns) that YOU don't need chrome lined bore. Having owned several AI's (and many many barrels) I can already tell that AXMC has barely been fired.


On second thought, this has been gone over so many times, I have no further desire to pick all the erroneous bits out of that post. You do you, homey. Just remember:
Just because YOU don't require it...doesn't transfer to others.