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HKpro is one place where I do not have to explain the "gun" bug, most of you understand. Sometimes there is no logic or common sense in wanting a particular firearm or sometimes things just do that "jump out" phenomena at you.
Lately it's been all about the HK P9s. I've reviewed the various posts here and around the net. I always try and research and learn all about my next potential purchase. I'm a full convert into the HK delayed roller-locking system from my HK-G3/91/PTR-91 research and purchase. When I first found that HK developed a pistol utilizing their knowledge and tech using this roller system, it ignited a firestorm of desire and intrigue within me. Further research shows all sorts of praise concerning the P9s accuracy, reliability, etc and I fully believe it all.
My main concern is that I am biased and am wearing the "rose colored" glasses. I need some honest thoughts on disadvantages of the P9s compared to say a newer/other HK purchase such as a USP(c) 9mm or a P2000/P30/P7. However these models don't stoke the fire like the P9s has. 9mm is optimal if I don't want to add another caliber, however the HK 45c/USP 45c also are very intriguing due to the allure of the .45acp round and some desire to diversify. I own a Glock 17 gen 2, Walther P-1, and a Ruger Mark III 22lr for handguns currently.
I've observed decent looking P9s shooters for approximately $600.00 or so on auction boards. I want a shooter, not a safe queen but I don't want it beat up looking too much, as to me that does show a little bit on how the firearm was taking care of in the past.
-Things I think could be disadvantages:
1. Availability and prices of parts. It appears that the P9s buffers are available, inexpensive, and being the most common worn out part, that is fine. However, what about a replacement bolt or carrier? Extractor? Commonly worn or problem springs, etc? Bolts look to be over 300 dollars, same with the carrier. Extractor a bit better but 75 dollars. Simple springs look kinda pricy but maybe I am spoiled over the cheapness of the HK91/PTR parts? Strangely I do not worry at all about the cost/avail of parts/spares for my other firearms, probably because of the large availability and low cost of spares for the rest of them. I know a fix is only a phone call and a few days away for shipping. Magazines don't look too crazy $$$ wise, I've seen much worse and usually for handguns I try and have about 5-7 total mags, so that is not going to break the bank.
2. Lack of good modern holsters, mainly good IWB conceal carry ones. My next handgun purchase really wants to be a CCW option, at least in a backup/2nd choice capacity. I wear my Glock 17 in a Comp-tac CTAC IWB holster. Surprised in how deep and concealed the full size pistol is on me and with my velcro backed Looper pistol belt and the different clip options/tuckability I really like these Comp-tac kydex holsters, the Glock 17 vanishes. I see options for all the HK's at Comp-tac except the VP70 and P9s. Note: I really do not like uncle mikes generic fabric type holsters. What are others using for holsters on this classic HK model?
3. I could switch firearm types completely, and use the $$$ to purchase a C-93 rifle which I would love to add as a sister gun to the PTR-91f I do have. The bad: I really do not want to deal with all the potential heartaches that a C-93 purchase could open up on me. The cost of the magazines also is a big downfall, for my rifles I like to have 8-12 mags available. That will end up costing as much as the rifle itself. Sending it off to Parabellum or Dakota if there are problems would not be a concern due to their stellar reputations, but again there is another almost doubling of the rifle cost there.
4. I can't think of any more reasons. What else is there to consider? There is a top end budget of around 800 dollars max. I'm analytical and my apologies on post length, I'm packing mucho information here! Perhaps this thought out post on paper will get someone else's mind turning if they are considering an older but classic/historical/Cool HK purchase. Any responses are appreciated! Thank you everyone, have a safe weekend!
Lately it's been all about the HK P9s. I've reviewed the various posts here and around the net. I always try and research and learn all about my next potential purchase. I'm a full convert into the HK delayed roller-locking system from my HK-G3/91/PTR-91 research and purchase. When I first found that HK developed a pistol utilizing their knowledge and tech using this roller system, it ignited a firestorm of desire and intrigue within me. Further research shows all sorts of praise concerning the P9s accuracy, reliability, etc and I fully believe it all.
My main concern is that I am biased and am wearing the "rose colored" glasses. I need some honest thoughts on disadvantages of the P9s compared to say a newer/other HK purchase such as a USP(c) 9mm or a P2000/P30/P7. However these models don't stoke the fire like the P9s has. 9mm is optimal if I don't want to add another caliber, however the HK 45c/USP 45c also are very intriguing due to the allure of the .45acp round and some desire to diversify. I own a Glock 17 gen 2, Walther P-1, and a Ruger Mark III 22lr for handguns currently.
I've observed decent looking P9s shooters for approximately $600.00 or so on auction boards. I want a shooter, not a safe queen but I don't want it beat up looking too much, as to me that does show a little bit on how the firearm was taking care of in the past.
-Things I think could be disadvantages:
1. Availability and prices of parts. It appears that the P9s buffers are available, inexpensive, and being the most common worn out part, that is fine. However, what about a replacement bolt or carrier? Extractor? Commonly worn or problem springs, etc? Bolts look to be over 300 dollars, same with the carrier. Extractor a bit better but 75 dollars. Simple springs look kinda pricy but maybe I am spoiled over the cheapness of the HK91/PTR parts? Strangely I do not worry at all about the cost/avail of parts/spares for my other firearms, probably because of the large availability and low cost of spares for the rest of them. I know a fix is only a phone call and a few days away for shipping. Magazines don't look too crazy $$$ wise, I've seen much worse and usually for handguns I try and have about 5-7 total mags, so that is not going to break the bank.
2. Lack of good modern holsters, mainly good IWB conceal carry ones. My next handgun purchase really wants to be a CCW option, at least in a backup/2nd choice capacity. I wear my Glock 17 in a Comp-tac CTAC IWB holster. Surprised in how deep and concealed the full size pistol is on me and with my velcro backed Looper pistol belt and the different clip options/tuckability I really like these Comp-tac kydex holsters, the Glock 17 vanishes. I see options for all the HK's at Comp-tac except the VP70 and P9s. Note: I really do not like uncle mikes generic fabric type holsters. What are others using for holsters on this classic HK model?
3. I could switch firearm types completely, and use the $$$ to purchase a C-93 rifle which I would love to add as a sister gun to the PTR-91f I do have. The bad: I really do not want to deal with all the potential heartaches that a C-93 purchase could open up on me. The cost of the magazines also is a big downfall, for my rifles I like to have 8-12 mags available. That will end up costing as much as the rifle itself. Sending it off to Parabellum or Dakota if there are problems would not be a concern due to their stellar reputations, but again there is another almost doubling of the rifle cost there.
4. I can't think of any more reasons. What else is there to consider? There is a top end budget of around 800 dollars max. I'm analytical and my apologies on post length, I'm packing mucho information here! Perhaps this thought out post on paper will get someone else's mind turning if they are considering an older but classic/historical/Cool HK purchase. Any responses are appreciated! Thank you everyone, have a safe weekend!