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Not a big fan of MS VMII, but what do I know. Anyone have experience with OWB Kydex?
 

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I tried a bunch of holsters but my favorite for the HK45C is the FIST holster (FIST, Inc.). I think I have #6 with a forward cant and reinforced front (which holds the holster open). I use the metal clip one which connects very positively to a good belt. I also like that the holster rides low and just feels quite comfortable.
 

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I tried a bunch of holsters but my favorite for the HK45C is the FIST holster (FIST, Inc.). I think I have #6 with a forward cant and reinforced front (which holds the holster open). I use the metal clip one which connects very positively to a good belt. I also like that the holster rides low and just feels quite comfortable.
Do you carry forward (2:00) or back (4:00)? Thanks.
 

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Check out palmettotacticalgear.com All the benefits of raven style holster without the wait, and they use a better quality kydex
 

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Check out palmettotacticalgear.com All the benefits of raven style holster without the wait, and they use a better quality kydex
Can you tell me what you mean by "better quality kydex"? And how can you tell?
 

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Is it true that you can use the same holster for the 45c and the P30?
I think for a lot of holsters that is true, but it would depend on the holster. The trigger guard is different.

For Kydex, give Crown Holsters a look as well. A lot like Raven, but much quicker. I have one for me P30 and am happy with it.
 

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Crown looks pretty good and the price and delivery is attractive. Worth a try. Thanks for the lead.

Anyone know anything about Cane & Derby?
 

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There are different grades of kydex, some kydex is made from old scraps reheated and put back together and is called V grade. Examples of this can be seen in cross sections of the kydex when it is cut. Also tensile strength and impact ratings vary based on this as well. New formed kydex can be up to 2 times stronger. Thickness also plays a part. Varrying from .40 to .125. The inferior kydex is why some manufacturers have consistently weak belt loops that break.

Check out the following link for more information.

http://www.norvaplastics.com/kydex-available.asp
 

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joerenew,

That is very interesting information and thanks for the link. I looked at a number of websites for the holster manufactutrer's and I don't find any information regarding the type of kydex or the thickness of the material other than the occasional "thinest". Is there any way to tell?
 

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I like the Blackhawk Serpa for the P30. The Tactical barrel sticks out the bottom so you'll need a thread protector. For IWB, Crossbreed Holster's SuperTuck. Best IWB ever.
 

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Nfk,

There are posts and reviews posted around the internet with the thickness etc. You can also tell by looking at the finished product at the edges of they are not blended well after they are shaped and cut. At first most people were using .060 including some of the big names, and you can find reports of them breaking belt loops or cracking at the rivets due to the hole in the ktdex weakening it significantly if placed to close together. .060 is easier to work with but makes for a less than desirable holster if you want it to last. .080 and .093 is recommended for gun holsters and .125 is the recommended standard for belt loops but not many people us the correct material. The reason .060 is used so commonly is that it was used to make knife sheaths for a number of years since they carry less weight the application was right for it. The weight of handguns however dictate a better product. I have experimented heavily with many grades and types of kydex, by requesting the samples available on kydexs own website and speaking to their reps to find the best material and through speaking to them is how I found out what materials companies have been buying in bulk.
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Joe,

To clarify a couple of points:
1- You are saying that the material for the belt loops should be thicker than the material for the holster body?
2- The blending of the edges where the front and back pieces come together are important or critical to performance?
 
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