One of my dream rifles 😍

 

They're pretty quiet about the barrel and lower provenance.

 

Would be nice to know if these are actual HK barrels

 

My understanding is that these are all complete original rifles as they left the factory.

 

Then why not a Z marking? The military G28 would not be available for civilian sale, full stop. @German

 

They got ATF approval I bet the rifles are all factory German HK. I just wonder if they are all serial numbered matching gun. Before I drop that coin, I want to know.

 

I believe the ones they imported will have the Z marking, all factory original, serial # marking. I believe the photos they used were of a clone built by @N55 . I could be wrong though.

 

You would think for something this high end, that they would get a pic of something that is already in house. But that's just me.

 

For 20k it should have come with the Optics

 

Not sure they are. I might be behind. I’m not watching it that closely.

 

They are indeed. Pretty cool and I hope we see more interesting imports coming in.

 

As a prospective buyer of a genuine RAL German MR and unique HK items, which AU has proven they can do, it seems they (BT) are bringing in some nice kit.

That this community/forum holds vendors’ feet to the fire in terms of authenticity and accuracy is why I keep coming back on here. The discourse on here is quite interesting.

 

I sent them an inquiry on these, so we will see what they say. For that amount of money, it would be nice to clear up what exactly these are, what are you getting.

 

Don’t expect any honesty or transparency. HK Pro is right. HK isn’t selling G28 military lowers to civilians.

 

I also thought the G28Z didn't come with an adjustable gas block and also didn't have the cutout in the handguard for the AGB? It's really weird they don't have photos of the actual units or an accurate description. If it has an AGB and the lower is actually marked G28 then the provenance is definitely in question since that would mean it's definitely not a G28Z.

 

The newer G28Z’s do have an adjustable gas block and the cutout as well as the flash hider to direct mount the G28 B&T suppressor. They are marked G28Z though so the lowers are still a bit curious. I have one of the parts kits AU sold and it has the factory HK case with the serial number sticker that matches the upper and BCG. The G28Z user manual also has sections discussing the use of the AGB. There are videos of the HK booths at the various European arms expos that show this to be the case as well.

 

As stated earlier in this thread, the photos from their product listing are stolen from a Gun Broker auction, they are not images of the actual rifles.

 

pictures being stolen is a big claim. Anyone have the links to the gunbroker ad? As far as I can see the AU images are not the same as the clone on GB.

 

pictures being stolen is a big claim. Anyone have the links to the gunbroker ad?

If I remember correctly that was pretty well established...

 

Dual use.....that changed a few things regarding import/barrels/restrictions too. Didn't change on the German side....just US side. Still learning.

 

I was told the stock photo on their website is a sales sample not the rifle being purchased The gun you will receive is marked G28Z

 

@therealarmsunlimited

what’s going on here?

 

No reply in 18 hours on a $20,000 item….. LOL

 

No reply in 18 hours on a $20,000 item….. LOL

No reply in 18 hours on a $20,000 item….. LOL

They’re not open on the weekends. The customer service team at AU has been super responsive and helpful when I’ve reached out. I’ve emailed them ever couple of weeks about the G28 lowers and barrels since April and the customer service rep I’ve had is super nice and always gets back to me promptly with updates.

 

Is there someone specific that replies to you or is it one person that handles all the tech questions?

 

I’m pretty sure it’s the same person each time. My G28 kit was missing a part when I received it and they said they’d let a manager know and then the part was sent out shortly after. So based on that I’d assume it’s a customer service rep solely there to field questions or order issues.

 

I am the primary contact for AU on HKPro.

Although we typically do not work weekends, I was asked to come in specifically to address your inquiries with photos and this response.

The HK G28Z rifles are not butchered as falsely speculated.

Attached are photos of the rifles customers will receive. The images on our product page are of a G28 sample from our inventory. Since the G28Z rifles are nearly identical except for markings, we have not yet taken new photos but plan to update the product page this week with fresh images. However, the rifles currently available for purchase represent the majority of our stock. There are only a few remaining. We have sourced a few additional units over the weekend, including at least one with a scope, the global supply of these rifles is limited and sourcing more is not likely.

Please note that the G28Z rifles we have in stock do not include scopes. The G28Z can be ordered with or without a scope and accessory kit, and the units we sourced were without scopes. We are not currently offering scopes separately, though we are attempting to source them from Schmidt.

Regards,
Ronny G

 

On the B&T G28 lowers, is there going to be a way for the guys who purchased parts kits to pre order or reserve one? I watch the newsletters but I’d hate to miss out on the lowers if there’s a limited amount and I don’t see them go up right away

 

Yikes, get that off the concrete floor!

 

The boss man here always tells me lay everything on the floor, opposed to propping it up, because when its laid down, it can't fall down!

 

You can continue to publish photos of another individual posting, but that individual was NOT posting as an official representative of ArmsUnlimited.

And you really think that you'll get away with that?



He was posting AU internal information, for the purpose of furthering AU's business and interests, almost every single time AU was mentioned here. And he had to hide his identity because AU was previously banned on HKPro due to their business practices, so he purposefully misled users and potential customers.

Just as you did when claiming that "AU signed up after many years", which given the above facts is factually false.

No one from ArmsUnlimited ever claimed anywhere that the launchers you continue to refer to were genuine HK

...except for the AU website, that is, of course.

So you really wanna die on that hill that our former member "doorman" that made these statements isn't somebody that is part of AU? Really?

Funny that he revealed himself as being part of AU towards the moderator staff (after claiming he isn't one for quite some time when it suited his purpose) while trying to explain another questionable item AU sold...

But I guess that level of dishonesty is just common business practice from AU?

and this has been thoroughly explained by me multiple times.

You wrote words. Because you have to.

But you didn't explain anything, especially not "thoroughly".

Your "explanation" is disproven by the fact that you and your partner that allegedly misled you only altered the forged fake markings incrementally, posting both pictures and videos of the process (which of course have been saved).

But it's a nice story, I have to admit.

Unfortunately it dethrones AU as the go-to-subject-matter-expert on anything HK if it needs HKPro to point out such a grave mistake that could have led to dozens of people being scammed out of thousands (how much was the price initially, how much did it go down after the disclosure?)...


...but you aren't doing anything HK anyway as you claim, B&T is doing all the heavy lifting and you're just moving boxes. I got that in the meantime.

 

And you really think that you'll get away with that?



He was posting AU internal information, for the purpose of furthering AU's business and interests, almost every single time AU was mentioned here. And he had to hide his identity because AU was previously banned on HKPro due to their business practices, so he purposefully misled users and potential customers.

Just as you did when claiming that "AU signed up after many years", which given the above facts is factually false.



...except for the AU website, that is, of course.

So you really wanna die on that hill that our former member "doorman" that made these statements isn't somebody that is part of AU? Really?

Funny that he revealed himself as being part of AU towards the moderator staff (after claiming he isn't one for quite some time when it suited his purpose) while trying to explain another questionable item AU sold...

But I guess that level of dishonesty is just common business practice from AU?




You wrote words. Because you have to.

But you didn't explain anything, especially not "thoroughly".

Your "explanation" is disproven by the fact that you and your partner that allegedly misled you only altered the forged fake markings incrementally, posting both pictures and videos of the process (which of course have been saved).

But it's a nice story, I have to admit.

Unfortunately it dethrones AU as the go-to-subject-matter-expert on anything HK if it needs HKPro to point out such a grave mistake that could have led to dozens of people being scammed out of thousands (how much was the price initially, how much did it go down after the disclosure?)...


...but you aren't doing anything HK anyway as you claim, B&T is doing all the heavy lifting and you're just moving boxes. I got that in the meantime.

You lack insight into the extent of our relationship with B&T. It's evident that only the collaborative efforts of B&T and AU are bringing these products to market, not group buy organizers or hobbyist importers.

During your visit to B&T AG with the other moderator, you were treated with hospitality, unlike your experience with HKO. Why do you choose to act snarky online?

 

We do our best to prevent this by pricing our products inline with market value while trying to offer attractive pricing at the same time. It is a difficult balance. We will do our best to make sure every collector gets what we work to bring them.

It’s a tough balance

We do our best to prevent this by pricing our products inline with market value while trying to offer attractive pricing at the same time. It is a difficult balance. We will do our best to make sure every collector gets what we work to bring them.

The prices you guys were offering the stripped lowers and lower parts kits at were very fair. I’m happy you guys brought all of this in and I’m excited to get my G28 put together and out on the range. I’ll post up a thread on here with pictures of it once it’s all together. It should help put some people’s worries to rest.

 

Your online behavior is that of a troll.

No. Just that of a reminder of missteps. If you like it or not.

Just like we established today (again) that AU actually does steal images from others despite your claims otherwise, accusing me of "bold face lies" while the victim of one of the thefts is even present, providing proof...

...which somewhat puts into question who is an actual troll, eh?

Talking to you serves no purpose.

I will not be addressing any more of your nonsense online.

I don't need to talk to you. I talk to the community members of HKPro.
But I will continue to respond to questionable statements that are made by AU.

I am totally fine with you not adressing me anymore.

Have a good Sunday afternoon, it's nothing personal against you, you're "just being directed", right? I get that.

 

Tough crowd.

Back on topic, these G28 look great. Not my personal cup of tea, but very cool.

 

AU is full tilt in the gaslighting phase of its business practices. German & N55 having none of it. Love to see it.

I will give AU credit though that they have been pulling off some impressive importing of rare HK goods so to that end, even if lacking in real transparency, is pretty baller.

 

give AU credit

B&T you mean?

The ones with the grudge against HK.

 

@N55 thank you sir for clarifying.

i really don’t understand why people or so bent out of shape. I think it’s awesome (even if I can’t afford it) that we are getting a shot at some guns never seen here before like the G28Z