[notoriousbfj]

Let me start by saying that I love HK's. Since I bought my first HK, I have not purchased a firearm from another manufacturer (well...I did buy a Umarex HK416 .22LR). Having said that, I want a MR556. I have been saving my pennies for one of these and then I got to fire my friend's Sig 516. I want the HK, but I cannot justify the cost difference. I am not going to be carrying it into battle, packing it in sand, or tote it through canopy jungle. I just can't justify the cost when I can literally buy the Sig 516 and 716 for about the same price as a HK MR556. Buying both Sig's and $3K worth of ammo would still be cheaper than the HKMR556 and the MR762. This is important as I do want both.

Will someone please tell me I'm not crazy and that I am still a die hard HK guy even if I go buy a couple of Sig's!

 

[pb_removed]

Read here:
http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk416-hk417-hq/132972-sig-516-hk-416-a.html

 

[dwillHK]

Unfortunately, the above thread has little real info on the SIG 516. It's mostly a discussion (argument) about the gas systems, and a comment about someone who bought a 556 that was poor quality (the early ones definitely were) and extrapolating that experience to any SIG USA product. I have a SIG 516 Patrol and a MR556 (and a 716 and MR762 also). I like my 516. It' seems well built and I think a great value for the price. It's relatively light with the carbine length quad rail (Troy?) and normal profile barrel. I like some of the features like the QD mounts on the sides of the lower and on the rail sides, plus it has an ambi mag release. Nothing really innovative. A lot of people who actually have one also seem to like it, based on the comments on SIG Forum. There was a lot of hubbub about SIG possibly copying LWRC's bolt carrier, which I believe LWRC filed a lawsuit over, and they have gone through a number of carrier modifications (I think the latest one has a lot of lightening depressions on the side, which mine doesn't), but that seems to be the only practical negative. If someone is looking for a reason not to buy a SIG 516, I don't have one, other than it's not HK.

 

[Hunter Rose]

I would go HK if you want a piston gun. Seems a little more tested and proven in the field. If money is an issue go with a known quality direct impingement AR like Colt, Daniel Defense, or LMT. Sigs lack of quality control on the 556 coupled with what seems a preference for profit over quality would.leave me with a less than warm fuzzy on the Sig USA rifle.

 

[SPECR]

If you're a die hard HK fan and you settle for a Sig 516, you be happy at first by saving money. Later on, after following this forum and it's many threads on the 416 and MR556, you're going to wish you bought the HK in the first place. You will eventually buy the MR556 down the line, so save yourself the aggravation and forgo the money savings. You'll shoot that much downrange anyways...

Choose wisely.

 

[GZire]

I consider myself a Sig guy. First pistol I ever bought was a P220 and the most firearms I've owned have been Sigs. This being said, I would not buy a new Sig product without it being out on the market for several years. It is my opinion that their QC has taken a major hit in the last several years and I've had to deal with it for the last 3 Sigs I've purchased.

Maybe several years down the line you might want to buy the Sig, but for now I'd do the HK, LMT, LWRC, etc. Almost any AR variant other than one produced by Sig.

 

[Crackerballer]

Op I like your logic. The cost difference is a lot of range time. Buy the Sig. shoot the piss out of it, then sell it if you still want an HK. All that range time will make you a better operator as well.

 

[pb_removed]

Op I like your logic. The cost difference is a lot of range time. Buy the Sig. shoot the piss out of it, then sell it if you still want an HK.

Not trying to be difficult, but who is gonna want a Sig with the piss shot out of it?

 

[Chui]

I consider myself a Sig guy. First pistol I ever bought was a P220 and the most firearms I've owned have been Sigs. This being said, I would not buy a new Sig product without it being out on the market for several years. It is my opinion that their QC has taken a major hit in the last several years and I've had to deal with it for the last 3 Sigs I've purchased.

Maybe several years down the line you might want to buy the Sig, but for now I'd do the HK, LMT, LWRC, etc. Almost any AR variant other than one produced by Sig.

The Mk25 (P226 NSW) should be good to go if it is truly THE EXACT pistol issued to NSW. The buy-in price is a bit steep. And you may wish for the SRT fire control group.

 

[pb_removed]

The Mk25 (P226 NSW) should be good to go if it is truly THE EXACT pistol issued to NSW. The buy-in price is a bit steep. And you may wish for the SRT fire control group.

I sold mine because of the SRT.

 

[Chui]

I sold mine because of the SRT.

So the new P226 NSW/Mk25 comes with the Short Reset Trigger?

 

[pb_removed]

I had the P226 then called the "Navy" model (same boat anchor and finish) that came with the SRT installed. The picture of the "MK25" designation does not appear to be the SRT

 

[IronKnight1991]

I must keep falling thru the cracks when it comes to all the bad the things I hear about Sig rifles. I own several HK pistols I'm saving up for a HK rifle. If they had released the dang thang a year ago i would have bought one already. I got impatient bought a Kriss and a Rock River PDS. Both for SBR projects. So got to save up again. I'll get there. But back to the Sig556 I have one of the very first batches that came out serial # is in the 2k area so I would think that's considered one of the earlier ones. It's not BLACK kind of grayish in color. I have shot it alot no problems and accurate as hell. SO I've always
thought the SIG556 is a great rifle. I hear alot of terrible stories about service and QC issues about Sig but mine is
absolutely reliable. But I know HK haters that swear HK is the worse company to deal with. I never had that problem either. I hope I continue to have good fortune with my guns. I to am not happy with the price of the HK but the MR762 is high on my list. The SCAR17 is starting to catch my eye. The price is right $2650.00 and I hav'nt heard to many bad things about the FN's. I guess I'm just a gun nut. Because no mater how many or what I buy. There's always something else that I just gotta have.