HK P30 Belt/Holster Combo

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PaulC

Discussion Starter · Feb 12, 2012

A couple days ago, I had to answer a few series of loud knocks on my door at 3am. Turned out to be an extremely random drunk girl who claimed she was locked out of her car and apartment. I pulled out my HK P30 from my bedside pistol box to accompany me to the door. However, after talking to her for a little bit, I let my guard down as she genuinely seemed to need my help.

Anyways, I wanted to keep my gun by my side even after I felt that nobody was going to come out from behind her and attack me. So I am looking for a holster/belt option for my HK P30 that would allow me to jump out of the and snap on a belt with a holster already on it. Anyone know of a convenient setup? I'm looking for something very quick and sturdy.

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riceboy72

· #2 · Feb 12, 2012 (Edited)

I use a Maxpedition style bag that can be slung cross chest, but mine's made by Tactical Tailor. Allows me to carry a spare mag, flashlight, knife, and whatever else I need should I have to get out of bed in the middle of the night and arm myself. I sleep in boxers and a T-shirt, so I prefer to not have things hanging off my waist if I can avoid it.

http://www.tacticaltailor.com/holsters_slings/concealed/crossfire-concealed-carry-bag

Otherwise, the easiest and quickest set up, to me, would be a nylon style police gunbelt (cheap ones can be had by Uncle Mike's and you can go up in quality from there) with a decent holster made for the gun.

Good on you for considering this now so that you're ready for the next weird knock at the door as you clear cobwebs and try to focus. Not the easiest thing at times!

Munch520

· #3 · Feb 12, 2012 (Edited)

I always have my battle belt loaded up and ready to go. Typically just use it for training but it's a handy system to snap on when I have to run out to the barn/check things out.

Soon I'll be rockin a p30 instead of pictured g19

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PaulC

Discussion Starter · #4 · Feb 12, 2012

riceboy72 said:
I use a Maxpedition style bag that can be slung cross chest, but mine's made by Tactical Tailor. Allows me to carry a spare mag, flashlight, knife, and whatever else I need should I have to get out of bed in the middle of the night and arm myself. I sleep in boxers and a T-shirt, so I prefer to not have things hanging off my waist if I can avoid it.

concealed

Otherwise, the easiest and quickest set up, to me, would be a nylon style police gunbelt (cheap ones can be had by Uncle Mike's and you can go up in quality from there) with a decent holster made for the gun.

Good on you for considering this now so that you're ready for the next weird knock at the door as you clear cobwebs and try to focus. Not the easiest thing at times!

That actually sounds like something I would be interested in. I did not even consider a concealed carry pack such as the tactical tailor or maybe something from maxpedition. Maybe that would be a better all around choice for me. The bag would allow me to make slight modifications to my weapon without buying a holster each time. For example, I might add a weapon light later. The ammo, light, and knife in the bag also sounds like an added plus.

Selective

· #5 · Feb 12, 2012

riceboy72 said:
I use a Maxpedition style bag that can be slung cross chest, but mine's made by Tactical Tailor. Allows me to carry a spare mag, flashlight, knife, and whatever else I need should I have to get out of bed in the middle of the night and arm myself. I sleep in boxers and a T-shirt, so I prefer to not have things hanging off my waist if I can avoid it.

concealed

Otherwise, the easiest and quickest set up, to me, would be a nylon style police gunbelt (cheap ones can be had by Uncle Mike's and you can go up in quality from there) with a decent holster made for the gun.

Good on you for considering this now so that you're ready for the next weird knock at the door as you clear cobwebs and try to focus. Not the easiest thing at times!

Thanks for posting this! This setup would be ideal for taking on weekend trips too. Just put it on the night stand next to the bed and keep everything in one place.

Double O

· #6 · Feb 12, 2012

Munch520 said:
I always have my battle belt loaded up and ready to go. Typically just use it for training but it's a handy system to snap on when I have to run out to the barn/check things out.

Soon I'll be rockin a p30 instead of pictured g19

That a great rig. What did use to set it up?

Munch520

· #7 · Feb 12, 2012 (Edited)

Double O said:
That a great rig. What did use to set it up?

Thanks! Great and comfortable way to carry a lot of gear.

-Viking Tactics 'Brokos' belt (user can use belt mounted accessories, molle, etc.)
-Viking Tactics Cobra Belt
-HSGI taco pouches (I removed the forward most pistol pouch, during transitions the slung rifle was in the way)
-Raven phantom holster
-(not pictured) IFAK, admin pouch, and dump pouch

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Double O

· #8 · Feb 12, 2012

Thanks Munch520.

Double O

· #9 · Feb 12, 2012

When comes to a rig that is quick and easy to put on, a shoulder holster comes to mind. I know it's not a belt rig, but it is an option

riceboy72

· #10 · Feb 12, 2012 (Edited)

Good looking rig, Munch520! Your whole setup with kit looks well thought out and put together.

As for the concealed carry pack, it allows me to carry what I need should I have to get up to check the bump in the night, and to keep my hands free if need be to use the phone, unlock / lock doors, etc. If I have to go outside, I can be armed and well equipped without causing alarm to neighbors or anyone else I may run into who is not adversarial, and not have gear falling out of my pockets or my hands. I think it's kind of the best of all worlds, because it allows me to quickly access and carry a good amount of gear by simply slipping it over my head. Other chatter on gun boards favor this as a pack to take on a road trip or to augment their BOB if you use one.

If you care, my bag contains my pistol, a spare mag, a Surefire C2 with a Malkoff M60 drop in, two spare batteries, a spare housekey, a knife, and a few extra shotgun rounds that are loose in the main compartment which is not the same as the pistol compartment.

Otherwise, PaulC and Selective, you hit the nail on the head: You can use a variety of pistols with or without accessories and not have to have a dozen holsters on hand, and in the morning it can be simply put into the safe and brought out before bedtime without having an array of gear stashed in drawers or on your nightstand. Let us know what you decide to go with!

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Munch520

· #11 · Feb 12, 2012

riceboy72 said:
Good looking rig, Munch520! Your whole setup with kit looks well thought out and put together.

As for the concealed carry pack, it allows me to carry what I need should I have to get up to check the bump in the night, and to keep my hands free if need be to use the phone, unlock / lock doors, etc. If I have to go outside, I can be armed and well equipped without causing alarm to neighbors or anyone else I may run into who is not adversarial, and not have gear falling out of my pockets or my hands. I think it's kind of the best of all worlds, because it allows me to quickly access and carry a good amount of gear by simply slipping it over my head. Other chatter on gun boards favor this as a pack to take on a road trip or to augment their BOB if you use one.

Thanks rice - and solid copy...I hear ya on the pack. Can you post some pics? I've been thinking of setting one up with basically the same things that go on my belt (magazines, handgun, knife, multitool, israeli bandage, quik clot, etc.) The pack has merits that outweigh the belt in many instances. Definitely a more covert/subdued approach to solving the OPs problem.

PaulC

Discussion Starter · #12 · Feb 13, 2012

Munch520 said:
Thanks rice - and solid copy...I hear ya on the pack. Can you post some pics? I've been thinking of setting one up with basically the same things that go on my belt (magazines, handgun, knife, multitool, israeli bandage, quik clot, etc.) The pack has merits that outweigh the belt in many instances. Definitely a more covert/subdued approach to solving the OPs problem.

I've decided to go with the Maxpedition style pack. The main reason being I don't have to buy several holsters. I will also get a dedicated belt holster rig for the pistol that is at my bedside 99% of the time. That gun is the HK P30 LEM. Some other guns will occasionally fill in but that is what the Maxpedition style pack will be for. I'm getting the belt holster rig in addition to the Maxpedition style pack because I like things in the exact same place and I feel like a belt holster rig is a little more rigid and easy access.

My plan for when I hear something in the night time is...
1. Open my pistol box
2. Grab my handgun
3. Throw on my belt holster rig or Maxpedition style pack.
4. Carefully investigate the noise

Simple enough in my opinion.

Paddy McWhipsmack

· #13 · Feb 13, 2012

I'm seriously looking into this:
https://www.uspalm.com/products/armor/us-palm-defender-handgun.html

Paddy

TGS

· #14 · Feb 13, 2012 (Edited)

Paddy McWhipsmack said:
I'm seriously looking into this:
https://www.uspalm.com/products/armor/us-palm-defender-handgun.html

Paddy

At that point you might as well just buy an actual plate carrier or even a IIIa vest with SAPI's......I don't see it doing anything a plate carrier/ballistic vest can't, and it does a lot of stuff worse than an actual rig.

For the OP.....

I think that Maxpedition pack will serve you well. I have a Hill People runner's kit bag that I wear for jogging with the dog while in a free state (I live one mile from PA), and it could also work for you, as well as being a great piece of kit for running, biking, hiking, camping, ect. Either way, between the HPG kit bat or Maxpedition I think you'll be served well.

My take on the situation:

Good on you for recognizing the potential for trouble.

Personally, with where I live I can't carry in the neighborhood, so it's not too much of a concern of mine although I do carry on my property. Our Rottweiler comes with me to the door as well......always....unless it's someone we're expecting. First I look out the windows, and if it's dark I light up the door with my flashlight as I look through the windows...my pistol is in my strong hand. If I decide to open the door, I holster the weapon.

If there was someone on the street that asked me to come outside for help, that's a PRIME indicator of trouble and even if I was still living in Virginia where I could carry in my neighborhood, I'm not coming outside. I'll hand them my cell phone so they can call for help, but that's it unless the person is obviously severely injured or has people chasing them. As always, Argus is by my side, and I'm wearing a gun......but I'm not going outside unless it's a traffic accident with someone likely hurt. At 3am, I wouldn't even be opening the door. We can shout through the windows together at 3am, which for me solves the whole conundrum of needing something to holster up with while not wearing a belt/clothes. If need be, they can ****in wait while I put on clothes and get the leash on Argus.

As it is, Argus is a fantastic deterrent. A well trained, loyal dog with territorial instincts and a low level of agreeableness (so they won't make friends on their own, they have to be introduced by you) is the best protection you can get. I feel safer with Argus and no gun than I do without him and packing. If you're an experienced dog owner, consider getting a Rottweiler puppy. They're absolutely phenomenal dogs, and if properly trained and socialized they also make the most unbelievably affectionate family dogs.

Good thread.

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TGS

· #15 · Feb 13, 2012

Here's a video of the HPG Kit Bag. I have the Runner's Kit Bag, which eliminates the middle pocket so it's slimmer, as well as having an elastic band that goes around the back to stabilize the whole thing while in motion (the back has a very nice mesh panel to hold it stable and comfortable as it is, unlike the TT/Maxpedition). From what I can tell, the TT Crossfire only has access to the gun from the top.....this HPG kit bag lets you draw it decently fast with access from the sides (or top, if you want to set it up that way).

Something to think about.

PaulC

Discussion Starter · #16 · Feb 14, 2012

TGS said:
At that point you might as well just buy an actual plate carrier or even a IIIa vest with SAPI's......I don't see it doing anything a plate carrier/ballistic vest can't, and it does a lot of stuff worse than an actual rig.

For the OP.....

I think that Maxpedition pack will serve you well. I have a Hill People runner's kit bag that I wear for jogging with the dog while in a free state (I live one mile from PA), and it could also work for you, as well as being a great piece of kit for running, biking, hiking, camping, ect. Either way, between the HPG kit bat or Maxpedition I think you'll be served well.

My take on the situation:

Good on you for recognizing the potential for trouble.

Personally, with where I live I can't carry in the neighborhood, so it's not too much of a concern of mine although I do carry on my property. Our Rottweiler comes with me to the door as well......always....unless it's someone we're expecting. First I look out the windows, and if it's dark I light up the door with my flashlight as I look through the windows...my pistol is in my strong hand. If I decide to open the door, I holster the weapon.

If there was someone on the street that asked me to come outside for help, that's a PRIME indicator of trouble and even if I was still living in Virginia where I could carry in my neighborhood, I'm not coming outside. I'll hand them my cell phone so they can call for help, but that's it unless the person is obviously severely injured or has people chasing them. As always, Argus is by my side, and I'm wearing a gun......but I'm not going outside unless it's a traffic accident with someone likely hurt. At 3am, I wouldn't even be opening the door. We can shout through the windows together at 3am, which for me solves the whole conundrum of needing something to holster up with while not wearing a belt/clothes. If need be, they can ****in wait while I put on clothes and get the leash on Argus.

As it is, Argus is a fantastic deterrent. A well trained, loyal dog with territorial instincts and a low level of agreeableness (so they won't make friends on their own, they have to be introduced by you) is the best protection you can get. I feel safer with Argus and no gun than I do without him and packing. If you're an experienced dog owner, consider getting a Rottweiler puppy. They're absolutely phenomenal dogs, and if properly trained and socialized they also make the most unbelievably affectionate family dogs.

Thanks for all the input gentlemen.

Good thread.

Nice to hear your take on how you would react. I have a poodle that believe it or not is a great watch dog. I'm not sure how scary he is to someone wanting to do harm, but he'll sit by the window all day and watch people in our neighborhood go by. He'll bark as soon as they get too close to the window. He helps me sleep at night.

TGS

· #17 · Feb 15, 2012

PaulC said:
I have a poodle that believe it or not is a great watch dog. I'm not sure how scary he is to someone wanting to do harm, but he'll sit by the window all day and watch people in our neighborhood go by. He'll bark as soon as they get too close to the window. He helps me sleep at night.

lol. Poodles are actually very good watch dogs, as you've noted. Lots of people would suggest a poodle with a larger dog as a great duo. I personally don't like toy dogs though...I could like a standard poodle, or a poodle mix, but not a medium/mini/toy class.

Anyway, what did you end up buying for a holster?

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