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This GB gun Heckler & Koch SP89 H&K SP 89 1989 VERY RARE! : Semi Auto Pistols at GunBroker.com with the front grip being sold, is the seller correct in that all you need is a $5 stamp to keep the front grip on the gun, and AOW??and"J grip". First is it not a K grip? Next how many parts does it take to be 922 compliant? And I thought to have a front grip you had to SBR you gun. I think this guy is a dealer, so Im sure he knows a lot more than I do, but can you guys tell me so I know. He will get away with a mistake, I will get a felony(not the luckiest guy in the world). Thanks.
 

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$5 for an aow but you still need all the paperwork so most just sbr them. As for the dealer he is local for me. I think he is class III so he can have it on there. Why he is posting pics while he is trying to sell it is stupid. They are a good shop trying to sell a high dollar item that "doesn't" seem right. I think in the end the shop is only going to hurt what they could have sold it for with the proper front hand guard.
 

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$200 to "make" an AOW and $5 to transfer an AOW. Normal NFA waiting period and paperwork applies...


A pistol with a front vertical grip is not and SBR. A front grip only turns it into an AOW. A shoulder stock turns it into an SBR.
 

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Once you make AOW. Is it permanent like SBR, or is it easily undone. In other words. If you pay the $200 for the AOW stamp, is the grip permanently attatched to the SP89, or can you leave it off, and have the option of having it(K grip) on there when or if you want, because you have the AOW stamp. Then if you sell it, can the next owner, decide no on the AOW stamp, abd not transfer it if so desired.
 

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IMHO the seller is shall we say, not wise for displaying the gun with a vertical fore grip on the gun. There is someone who was busted just for displaying a folding stock and vertical fore grip along with an SP89 for sale in Florida. ATF calls it constructive possession. I don't know if he was convicted, but just the arrest and hassle, legal bills....
Florida Man Arrested for Constructive Possession of an SBR | Prince Law Offices, P.C.
 

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The way I understand it, once you've SBR'ed it, you can take off the grip/stock or whatever you want, whenever you want.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
You are right about being able to remove the stock and vertical foregrip any time once you SBR it.

However, to remove the gun from the purview of the NFA, you have to add a barrel extension and US parts to sell it as a Title 1 gun again.
It's stupid, but once the ATF knows it's been converted to a SBR, you cannot sell it as a pistol again just by removing the stock.
 

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AGG, you made a reference to the stamping on this IK dated SP 89, is there a difference? This one is SN in the mid 13's, and my IK dated SP 89 is in the mid 14's, w/the same markings. But I never thought thier was anything different about it, other than it was the first year imported. Does the year/SN make it unique? Thanks.
 

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AGG, you made a reference to the stamping on this IK dated SP 89, is there a difference? This one is SN in the mid 13's, and my IK dated SP 89 is in the mid 14's, w/the same markings. But I never thought thier was anything different about it, other than it was the first year imported. Does the year/SN make it unique? Thanks.
The stamping difference that I am referring to is "HK SP 89" (early) and "HK SP89" (later)--- that is, the "SP89" is somewhat closer on later IK's!!! :wink:
Can you verify your markings--- I have the cutoff being around 13700 (I do not have my data before me)? :eek:

Tony
 
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