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Been searching for info on the reliability of the USP. The MK 25 tanked want to know how the Usp would do.
Hk USP how will it do in the Military Arms Channel elements test?
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Do we really care what one guy's amateur-hour DIY "tests" on YouTube mean?
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Oh great the Ghallager of Youtube is at it again... such a shill.
Who cares. The USP's reliability cannot be questioned. It was subjected to some of the most rigorous testing seen (professional testing I might add). And it has over two decades of real world application where it continues to excel. So I ask again, who cares how well the USP does in some backyard youtube test.
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He seems somewhat biased against HK since the VP9 episode. He'll probably leave the USP in a campfire for ten minutes, or throw it up into the blades of a helicopter, or let a golden unicorn stab it while a leprechaun plays an ancient penny whistle and casts evil spells on the pistol, because...well, you know. These things happen in real life and he doesn't want any of us to take any chances or 'compromise'.
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MAC's tests are idiotic and irrelevant to your everyday average gun owner. Buy what you want and like and ignore the Youtube fools who clearly have more money and time than brains.
Intentionally trying to damage a gun or induce failures to function, then acting surprised that it malfunctioned is idiotic. Only the heir to the kingdom of idiots would then proceed to denigrate a design based on one example that has been put through unrealistic tests.
Intentionally trying to damage a gun or induce failures to function, then acting surprised that it malfunctioned is idiotic. Only the heir to the kingdom of idiots would then proceed to denigrate a design based on one example that has been put through unrealistic tests.
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Should do well. I hope it will, if he tests it. If it doesn't do well, it's not going to sway my love of the platform, and I'm definitely not going to spazz out and hurl insults at him like some butthurt fanboys do. I don't understand the accusations of him being biased or a shill with his "torture" tests, the new format is extremely simple and straightforward and you see the results as they happen. They aren't even very difficult tests to pass. "Sample size of one," "not scientific," blah blah blah, take the video for what it is - entertainment and a comparison between guns in one set of circumstances.
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All I can say is that I love the UPS line of handguns. I never have had any issues with mine and have had a USP 45 Full size for nearly 15 years. I just use quality ammo and they work everytime. In my opinion, the UPS line is the best all around pistol, despite it being on the market for 22 years. I hope HK never does away with it.
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Have you seen his older Keltec vids? Specifically the RFB? He bashed the product and all of a sudden he was given exclusive rights to new Keltec products for his channel and now all is well? If that's not a shill, I don't know what is.
My problem with his VP9 test was he claimed his Glock wouldn't fail with a "little" water without having his Glock present to do the test simultaneously. He then claimed the VP9 was a "range" gun. Has he called the MCX a "range" gun after it failed in his tests? Nope and you know why? Because he gets exclusive Sig release stuff. Cmon man.. it's all click bait for his channel and yes that's being a Shill.
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I don't see any shill behavior in the latest torture test videos now that he has a standardized format. In other areas, maybe, I don't watch every video he makes, but pretty much every successful gun Youtuber is a shill or pulling punches at some level.
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Seriously? You think these extremely low budget, amateur, sample of one, unscientific, backyard "tests" on You Tube by those who get paid by the amount of hits they get are anything but entertainment at best?? They certainly are not valid reliability tests. And then the one guy is hawking the one model for sale that "supposedly" best the other on his website and his video is linked for further hits at the website of importer of same model and his video linked and opens automatically. Coincidence??
The HK45 and USP are very similar and here is a 50,000 round well documented reliability test of the HK45 which is much more than running a few boxes of ammo through it and dropping it in a mud puddle. This outstanding reliability test gives you a good idea of the robustness of HK hammer fired pistols.
Oh, and you would be a fool to rule out a P226 MK25 or any other just because of that silly video.
pistol-training.com » Blog Archive » HK45 Endurance Test: Week Thirty Seven
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I have watched tons of these ignorant tests, throwing sand, mud, in the action, I watched the AK one where their pouring gravy, spaghetti, shoving twinkles in the actions, for what? It's to gain views, and that's it!!
I've wrote about this before, it's assenine to do this to a nice pistol. I don't care what it is, s&w, Luger, makarov, whatever the fuch it is, its ridiculous.
I get all worked up over dumb stuff like this, this does not show reliability, it shows the simple minded trying to get hits on their websites.
I'm done with this subject !!!
I've wrote about this before, it's assenine to do this to a nice pistol. I don't care what it is, s&w, Luger, makarov, whatever the fuch it is, its ridiculous.
I get all worked up over dumb stuff like this, this does not show reliability, it shows the simple minded trying to get hits on their websites.
I'm done with this subject !!!
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And when we call him out on this obvious behavior, we're not "butthurt". His KAC silencer "Review" was garbage. I pointed out on his channel that he didn't talk at all about POI shift or mounting. His response? "None of my cans have POI shift so I don't test for it".
Apparently, not only is he a shill, but he is able to defy physics. Oh, and he thinks Griffin Armament is a high quality world class manufacturer. L. O. L.
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Again, I am only referring to his recent torture test videos (the topic of the thread) and, more specifically, the [over]reaction of certain Sig fanboys to their guns not doing so well. This doesn't describe everyone who likes Sigs, just those who see their pet gun fail and flip out about it. I'd like to think we HK fans will react more reasonably but I'm starting to doubt that.
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That actually happened to me once, but the unicorn was more of a light, off white with a royal blue mane.
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I like your line of thinking. Plus, I like your reviews on Youtube. The 10mm USP one was fun! Thanks
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Pet Gun fail FTW!!!! That just made my day.
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If this thread becomes mostly about shilling or MAC or other brands, it's going to get moved or zapped. Keep it HK, folks.
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Here's my thoughts on these tests, right or wrong. It's just personal opinion.
These videos don't sway my opinion of a platform one way or another too much. I actually do my own testing here in the AZ desert, because these are environments I find myself in. I don't do mud tests, but I will lay the gun down and toss a hand full of desert sand on it and see how it shoots. As far as HK's, I haven't actually tested the USP yet, but I might(9 or 45). I have tested the VP9, P30, and P30L in 9mm and the HK45.
I will say that my experience has been that the HK's don't much like sand. To be fair, there are very few guns that have not choked on this fine sand we have. The P30/HK45 guns seem to have problems with proper ejection and chambering with the introduction of sand. My personal observations seem to indicate that it's partially the relatively tight slide to frame fit of the HK's. A little sand in the rails can really hinder cycling. I also think that a little bit of sand finds it's way into the extractor and might possibly cause some issues.
Again, this doesn't really bother me, or change my opinion of the gun. I just like knowing what kind of exposure the gun can take before I need to be concerned. I've been carrying the HK 45C for the past 3 weeks. Today I decided to switch it up and I'm carrying the P30L.
So yeah, I'm one of the lame-o's that actually like seeing the proverbial "torture test" videos just because it's interesting to me. It doesn't form the basis of my opinions on said firearms.
I will say the 2 top performing guns that I have tested to date have been the Glock 19 and the Walther PPQ. Both of them were virtually impossible to get the to fail, no matter how much sand I started scooping onto them. That's not an indictment of any other guns. Just sharing my personal experiences with sample sizes of (mostly) 1. You environment and your experience may vary.
These videos don't sway my opinion of a platform one way or another too much. I actually do my own testing here in the AZ desert, because these are environments I find myself in. I don't do mud tests, but I will lay the gun down and toss a hand full of desert sand on it and see how it shoots. As far as HK's, I haven't actually tested the USP yet, but I might(9 or 45). I have tested the VP9, P30, and P30L in 9mm and the HK45.
I will say that my experience has been that the HK's don't much like sand. To be fair, there are very few guns that have not choked on this fine sand we have. The P30/HK45 guns seem to have problems with proper ejection and chambering with the introduction of sand. My personal observations seem to indicate that it's partially the relatively tight slide to frame fit of the HK's. A little sand in the rails can really hinder cycling. I also think that a little bit of sand finds it's way into the extractor and might possibly cause some issues.
Again, this doesn't really bother me, or change my opinion of the gun. I just like knowing what kind of exposure the gun can take before I need to be concerned. I've been carrying the HK 45C for the past 3 weeks. Today I decided to switch it up and I'm carrying the P30L.
So yeah, I'm one of the lame-o's that actually like seeing the proverbial "torture test" videos just because it's interesting to me. It doesn't form the basis of my opinions on said firearms.
I will say the 2 top performing guns that I have tested to date have been the Glock 19 and the Walther PPQ. Both of them were virtually impossible to get the to fail, no matter how much sand I started scooping onto them. That's not an indictment of any other guns. Just sharing my personal experiences with sample sizes of (mostly) 1. You environment and your experience may vary.
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