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I am going to be taking a three-day pistol class in the summer and am thinking about using my USPt-40. It has the adjustable targets sights and am wondering that when we practice one-handed slide racking using the rear sight, I want to make sure these sights can handle that and are just as strong/rugged as the ‘regular’ sights. I don’t want to do that only to have the rear sight break. They don’t seem to be as strong as the ‘regular’ sights because there are moving parts and such, but they may be… I dunno.
 

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I think the front ledge of the sight could handle it, but if one were to slip and catch the rear sight leaf it could easily break. This is where the adj./target sights fall short.

If I were you, I would contact the host/instructor and voice your concerns. They can advise you on whether you will be doing drills of that nature.
 

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Strongly recommend you do not use the adjustable rear sight for one-handed racking drills. I would use it in an emergency if I had to, but otherwise not. They are not built with that kind of usage in mind.
 

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This is something I would have overlooked. I would have assumed they were rugged enough. Glad you posted this.
 

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when we practice one-handed slide racking using the rear sight,
I'm guessing this would be near impossible to do with a P30 and factory sights?
 

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Now that I think about it, the sights on the Mark 23 seem to be much more durable than the USP tactical ones. I wonder if HK would replace them under warranty if they broke? This is a "tactical" pistol we are talking about, you'd think HK would have considered such an issue.
 

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I just pulled my stock tactical sights out of my parts box, yeah... those are kind of flimsy.

The meprolights adjustable night sights are considerably more robust in design. Of course this is purely based on appearance and some man handling.
 

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The meprolight adjustable night sights can take a beating. You are just going to have to trust me on this one.........
 

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I think what I am going to do is take my USPc as a back-up. It's got the standard USP sights which should work fine for such a drill.

Or I could get a set of these:
Ameriglo Tritum Suppressor Rear Night Sight - USP - Top Gun Supply
Ameriglo Tritum Suppressor Front Night Sight - USP TACTICAL - Top Gun Supply

Trade me your tactical sights fo my stock ones, problem solved. I'll even pay the shipping:wink:
Sure, no problem... so long as your gun is still attached to the sights. :wink:

I'm guessing this would be near impossible to do with a P30 and factory sights?
Try it...
 

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Now that I think about it, the sights on the Mark 23 seem to be much more durable than the USP tactical ones. I wonder if HK would replace them under warranty if they broke? This is a "tactical" pistol we are talking about, you'd think HK would have considered such an issue.
Fixed sights were considered for the USP45 Tactical (first called the USP45SD) when it was first developed but because it was intended to be a suppressed handgun the LPA click adjustable sights were selected so the shooter could see over the can (unlike the standard fixed sights) and the pistol could be zeroed with and without the can on. Variances in ammo types and POI were also considered. Few like to hold off with handguns for precision shoots especially 2-8 inches POI shifts that is not uncommon in such set ups. Fixed sights are always more durable then click adjustables but we found through various Govt user tests the LPA's held up quite well to include being selected after user eval at a high speed unit at Fort Bragg.
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