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Well...I mean a 308 out of a 8.5 inch barrel HAS to be fun at the range I figure. :unsure: It looks new and is a CT built gun.









Afterwards I watched several videos on Youtube basically bashing the thing to hell saying they are problems and there's no help. I think the main issue I saw (I think) was they beat themselves to death. Broken parts all over the place and broken buffer tubes. In this gun's defense there aren't that many videos I could find. Does anyone have some advice on keeping this thing tip top shape while shooting it? Did I screw up buying one of these? Paid over a grand...
 

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I run one of the earlier versions of that gun with a registered trigger pack. I haven’t noticed it beating up the gun. My favorite full auto host!
Get one of the longer fore ends.
 

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Does there need be a ‘why’ other that it’s fun and absurdly loud!?! It OK to buy guns that are simply fun to shoot and show off. Not all guns need to make sense.

I have the k3p. Basically the 12” version. Has eaten anything I’ve fed it, shy of some really-really old surplus Portuguese stuff someone had. It the rounds were probably older than me, and it wasn’t functioning in anyone’s 7.62/.308.
 

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I don't have any expectation that it'd bash itself apart. There's really NOT much difference internally from the full size/length version so mechanically it shouldn't be a problem. Of course .308 out of an 8" barrel doesn't really appeal to me that much. More flash, more blast, less thump.
 

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I watched that Colion Noir video the other day where he was shooting a HK51 full auto. Made me want to check one of these out.

I don’t know how you can regret buying it to try.

Just double up on the ear pro! Lol
 

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If you have to explain to someone “why”....stop. They won’t get it.
Cool clone. I haven’t heard about any G3 variant bearing itself up. My experience with PTR is they are well made and one of the best roller locked values (as far as shooting not talking about investment) out there. Also, some people in this section have had issues with the 9mm K guns and suppressors dealing with the bolts. It sounds like that is limited to that model and it sounds like PTR customer service has been good so I wouldn’t worry too much about issues on that end. It’s an under $2500 roller lock. I wouldn’t be shocked and offended if it had an issue. I would be pissed if the manufacturer didn’t sort it out for me.
I would stay on top of manufacturer recommended buffer/rsa maintenance/replacement but I would do that whatever variant it is.
Have fun with it. It’s quite literally a blast that doesn’t need to explain it’s practicality to anyone.
 

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I have a K3P set up as a G3K clone. I use the #17 LP, and made sure the recoil spring was in good shape. I do have the heavy buffer in an A3 stock, but that is really of probably not much use; the LP and the recoil spring should really be doing the job of slowing down and bringing the bolt carrier to a stop before it hits the buffer plunger.
With yours being that collapsing recoil spring assembly, I'd make sure it has a very good/strong spring in there. No idea what your LP situation would be if you were wanting to adjust that.
 

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Can you just PM before you go to an indoor range so I know when I should just stay home?

Just jokes, I’m sure it’s gonna be a blast to shoot. Just ty to double up on that ear pro lol
 

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Hey, if you have a G to drop on a fun noisemaker why not? No, it's not particularly useful and yes, it's probably going to have a pretty short service life but who cares?

If it makes you feel better, at the rate the Dims are running us into the mountain side, by this time next year that thousand bucks will likely get you a cup of coffee.
 

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I think every video I've watched from 'Hoplopfheil' has contained jams, mismatched and broken parts, disparaging voice over applied to the featured firearm, the aftermarket parts, the narrator and generally user error. The last video above is about the only one I've seen where the reviewed weapon functioned properly. I don't know how this guy manages to get the factory screw ups so often, but 80% of the time he changes parts he uses cheap ones or ones designed for something else and the 20% of the time he manages to get a quality accessory (or firearm) he doesn't seem to like it.
 

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I would take those videos with a large grain of salt. I made it through two and choked down a ton of misinformation and bad advice before I got tired of repeating ‘don’t do that’, or ‘you should really find someone that knows what they’re doing’.

They’re fixing symptoms, not the true problem. Hopefully someone eventually decides to tone down the bolt velocity with a different locking piece that’ll keep the bolt closed a little longer?
 

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I would take those videos with a large grain of salt. I made it through two before I got tired of repeating ‘don’t do that’, or ‘you should really find someone that knows what they’re doing’.

They’re fixing symptoms, not the true problem. Hopefully someone eventually decides to tone down the bolt velocity with a different locking piece that’ll keep the bolt closed a little longer?
You stopped too soon. The third vid starts with PTR's action after having received the gun for repair. EVERRYTHING in the previous two vids is negated by the third vid.

Perhaps he was treating symptoms. I got the impression he was mostly just running ammo through it. He starts out swapping parts with just about everything 'to make it more usable' hence the addition of the brace.

I use quite a few of those Gamma muzzle devices in 3 or 4 calibers. Here in CA we aren't allowed flash hiders and the Gammas seem pretty good. That said, I've never really noted a muzzle device to make a 'huge difference' in recoil.
 

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keep in mind this is a sample size of one and a totally different caliber - but the PTR 9CT I received came with a weaker recoil spring than either my SP5 or AP5P. If a roller lock is beating itself up, chances are good the spring is shot (or was never good to begin with). It functions fine, but I plan to swap it for simple peace of mind.
 

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I have a 51K That always puts a smile on anyones face that shoots it. (as well as warming your face on a cold day. ) You are going to have a blast with the 51. Always a attention getter and all round fun gun. No regrets. If you have any issues, guys round here will talk you through it. My gun runs like a sewing machine. Once they are properly set up it should give you years of fun.
 
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