Welcome to the site, and congratulations on the acquisition!!! :wink:
Tony
Tony
I'm new to guns, the forum, the whole gambit!
Hi everyone,
Bit of a long intro, but I'm a chick so what do you expect? :wink:
I've shot a few guns before, but only for fun. I was a natural shot and enjoyed it, but never saw the "need" to own one myself. But this day and age, where everyone is looking to rip each other off, my tune has changed (which pleases my hubby greatly). He almost fell out of his chair when I told him I want to get my CCW license! I'm a poker player so I'm working late hours and carrying cash. There have been a few incidents where players were driving home, got "hit" by another car at a stop sign, and were shot by robbers. I don't want that to happen to me, so I want to take the right precautions.
When I started asking friends what gun I should check out for CCW, I got a lot of glock responses. I personally hate glocks, don't like a lot of things about them. But one thing they all agreed on is go with a .45 acp caliber. So hubby and I joined a local club and had .45 acp day. I had read about H&K so we tried the USP, HK45 and HK45c (I have a great love for german engineering, since I grew up driving VW and Audi). I immediately fell in love with the HK45c, it felt right and I could hit the bulleseye at 25 ft. We also tried FnH, Glock, M&P, a 1911 style, Sig, and Kahr. The problem I had since I was new, I didn't have a proper grip, stance, or hand strength. So the next day my hand was inoperable (only fired 100 rounds). I decided that perhaps I should start with less punch until I get proper form, grip, strength, etc. The next weekend we tried .40 s&w in various models. I didn't like the snappy kick at all, felt like the gun would fly out of my hands. So that's a no-go. Then we tried 9mm, finally something I could handle that didn't hurt me! I tried all different 9mm pistols until I found the HK P2000. Absolutely love it!! Loved it so much, left the lane, asked if they had one in stock and purchased it that night! Got it for $730, HK P2000 9mm, v3, w/ hard case, 2 mags, and a $50 gift card to boot. My husband was exiting the lanes when he saw my ear to ear grin. A bit of an impulse sure, but who can resist the feel of an HK in your hands? The following week, my hubby found what he likes (M&P Pro .40 S&W) and he also impulse bought, so now I don't feel so bad.
I've since had a private lesson (which tightened my grouping to 2", improved my grip and form), and have put 500 rounds through my P2000. My hubby also got me gripmasters for my hand strength. No hand issues at all. I am still learning proper trigger squeeze, sometimes I pop it. I've got the sickness bad, I want to go to the range at least once a week! I love, love, love my P2000!! I can't wait till the CCW class next weekend. Which brings me to a few questions.
I'm now looking into belts and holsters. I've decided to order a milt sparks set up after all the rave reviews. But since they take so long to arrive, what do I do in the meantime? I don't want to wait 6 months to carry, I'll be in the WSOP by then. And I want lots of practice with holstering and shooting before then. There is a holstering presentation class I want to take in feb. Should I get a stock galco IWB and belt as temps? Or do I get a OWB to use as an alternate even after the vm2 comes in? I dress in jeans and untucked shirts, have an hourglass shape (so figured behind hip would be easiest to conceal). Any advice?
We'll be going to the range again this weekend. Is it bad that besides firing my gun, I also want to retry the HK45c? I am curious how I can handle it now that I have a little more training. Problem is I know if I fire it again I'm going to want to buy it. But I am looking forward to carrying my P2000. I got it! I'll carry the P2000 and reward myself with the 45c after the WSOP. By the time I get a holster for the 45c, I'll have carried the P2000 for almost a year. Sounds reasonable right? Help me I've fallen for HK's and I can't get up!!
My poor husband doesn't realize what he's gotten himself into. Apparently he's lucky cause I'm into poker and guns, LOL! He liked HK's too, just shot them low and left. Now that he's had training he can shoot the bullseye with my P2000. So now he's already thinking of a HK as his next gun. I should warn him about the bug! I already got him hooked on german car engineering.
Anyways, thanks for reading my longwinded thought process. Looking forward to learning from you guys!
Bit of a long intro, but I'm a chick so what do you expect? :wink:
I've shot a few guns before, but only for fun. I was a natural shot and enjoyed it, but never saw the "need" to own one myself. But this day and age, where everyone is looking to rip each other off, my tune has changed (which pleases my hubby greatly). He almost fell out of his chair when I told him I want to get my CCW license! I'm a poker player so I'm working late hours and carrying cash. There have been a few incidents where players were driving home, got "hit" by another car at a stop sign, and were shot by robbers. I don't want that to happen to me, so I want to take the right precautions.
When I started asking friends what gun I should check out for CCW, I got a lot of glock responses. I personally hate glocks, don't like a lot of things about them. But one thing they all agreed on is go with a .45 acp caliber. So hubby and I joined a local club and had .45 acp day. I had read about H&K so we tried the USP, HK45 and HK45c (I have a great love for german engineering, since I grew up driving VW and Audi). I immediately fell in love with the HK45c, it felt right and I could hit the bulleseye at 25 ft. We also tried FnH, Glock, M&P, a 1911 style, Sig, and Kahr. The problem I had since I was new, I didn't have a proper grip, stance, or hand strength. So the next day my hand was inoperable (only fired 100 rounds). I decided that perhaps I should start with less punch until I get proper form, grip, strength, etc. The next weekend we tried .40 s&w in various models. I didn't like the snappy kick at all, felt like the gun would fly out of my hands. So that's a no-go. Then we tried 9mm, finally something I could handle that didn't hurt me! I tried all different 9mm pistols until I found the HK P2000. Absolutely love it!! Loved it so much, left the lane, asked if they had one in stock and purchased it that night! Got it for $730, HK P2000 9mm, v3, w/ hard case, 2 mags, and a $50 gift card to boot. My husband was exiting the lanes when he saw my ear to ear grin. A bit of an impulse sure, but who can resist the feel of an HK in your hands? The following week, my hubby found what he likes (M&P Pro .40 S&W) and he also impulse bought, so now I don't feel so bad.
I've since had a private lesson (which tightened my grouping to 2", improved my grip and form), and have put 500 rounds through my P2000. My hubby also got me gripmasters for my hand strength. No hand issues at all. I am still learning proper trigger squeeze, sometimes I pop it. I've got the sickness bad, I want to go to the range at least once a week! I love, love, love my P2000!! I can't wait till the CCW class next weekend. Which brings me to a few questions.
I'm now looking into belts and holsters. I've decided to order a milt sparks set up after all the rave reviews. But since they take so long to arrive, what do I do in the meantime? I don't want to wait 6 months to carry, I'll be in the WSOP by then. And I want lots of practice with holstering and shooting before then. There is a holstering presentation class I want to take in feb. Should I get a stock galco IWB and belt as temps? Or do I get a OWB to use as an alternate even after the vm2 comes in? I dress in jeans and untucked shirts, have an hourglass shape (so figured behind hip would be easiest to conceal). Any advice?
We'll be going to the range again this weekend. Is it bad that besides firing my gun, I also want to retry the HK45c? I am curious how I can handle it now that I have a little more training. Problem is I know if I fire it again I'm going to want to buy it. But I am looking forward to carrying my P2000. I got it! I'll carry the P2000 and reward myself with the 45c after the WSOP. By the time I get a holster for the 45c, I'll have carried the P2000 for almost a year. Sounds reasonable right? Help me I've fallen for HK's and I can't get up!!
My poor husband doesn't realize what he's gotten himself into. Apparently he's lucky cause I'm into poker and guns, LOL! He liked HK's too, just shot them low and left. Now that he's had training he can shoot the bullseye with my P2000. So now he's already thinking of a HK as his next gun. I should warn him about the bug! I already got him hooked on german car engineering.
Anyways, thanks for reading my longwinded thought process. Looking forward to learning from you guys!
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I am new to this site and new to the world of HK pistols as well. I have been carrying and shooting handguns for over 20 years. From what you describe I am going to suggest that you look into a crossbreed supertuck holster. If you do a search for "crossbreed holsters" you can review websites and videos to learn more about them and decide if it will fit your needs. If you order one, it is about a 6 week wait.Hi everyone,
Bit of a long intro, but I'm a chick so what do you expect? :wink:
I've shot a few guns before, but only for fun. I was a natural shot and enjoyed it, but never saw the "need" to own one myself. But this day and age, where everyone is looking to rip each other off, my tune has changed (which pleases my hubby greatly). He almost fell out of his chair when I told him I want to get my CCW license! I'm a poker player so I'm working late hours and carrying cash. There have been a few incidents where players were driving home, got "hit" by another car at a stop sign, and were shot by robbers. I don't want that to happen to me, so I want to take the right precautions.
When I started asking friends what gun I should check out for CCW, I got a lot of glock responses. I personally hate glocks, don't like a lot of things about them. But one thing they all agreed on is go with a .45 acp caliber. So hubby and I joined a local club and had .45 acp day. I had read about H&K so we tried the USP, HK45 and HK45c (I have a great love for german engineering, since I grew up driving VW and Audi). I immediately fell in love with the HK45c, it felt right and I could hit the bulleseye at 25 ft. We also tried FnH, Glock, M&P, a 1911 style, Sig, and Kahr. The problem I had since I was new, I didn't have a proper grip, stance, or hand strength. So the next day my hand was inoperable (only fired 100 rounds). I decided that perhaps I should start with less punch until I get proper form, grip, strength, etc. The next weekend we tried .40 s&w in various models. I didn't like the snappy kick at all, felt like the gun would fly out of my hands. So that's a no-go. Then we tried 9mm, finally something I could handle that didn't hurt me! I tried all different 9mm pistols until I found the HK P2000. Absolutely love it!! Loved it so much, left the lane, asked if they had one in stock and purchased it that night! Got it for $730, HK P2000 9mm, v3, w/ hard case, 2 mags, and a $50 gift card to boot. My husband was exiting the lanes when he saw my ear to ear grin. A bit of an impulse sure, but who can resist the feel of an HK in your hands? The following week, my hubby found what he likes (M&P Pro .40 S&W) and he also impulse bought, so now I don't feel so bad.
I've since had a private lesson (which tightened my grouping to 2", improved my grip and form), and have put 500 rounds through my P2000. My hubby also got me gripmasters for my hand strength. No hand issues at all. I am still learning proper trigger squeeze, sometimes I pop it. I've got the sickness bad, I want to go to the range at least once a week! I love, love, love my P2000!! I can't wait till the CCW class next weekend. Which brings me to a few questions.
I'm now looking into belts and holsters. I've decided to order a milt sparks set up after all the rave reviews. But since they take so long to arrive, what do I do in the meantime? I don't want to wait 6 months to carry, I'll be in the WSOP by then. And I want lots of practice with holstering and shooting before then. There is a holstering presentation class I want to take in feb. Should I get a stock galco IWB and belt as temps? Or do I get a OWB to use as an alternate even after the vm2 comes in? I dress in jeans and untucked shirts, have an hourglass shape (so figured behind hip would be easiest to conceal). Any advice?
We'll be going to the range again this weekend. Is it bad that besides firing my gun, I also want to retry the HK45c? I am curious how I can handle it now that I have a little more training. Problem is I know if I fire it again I'm going to want to buy it. But I am looking forward to carrying my P2000. I got it! I'll carry the P2000 and reward myself with the 45c after the WSOP. By the time I get a holster for the 45c, I'll have carried the P2000 for almost a year. Sounds reasonable right? Help me I've fallen for HK's and I can't get up!!
My poor husband doesn't realize what he's gotten himself into. Apparently he's lucky cause I'm into poker and guns, LOL! He liked HK's too, just shot them low and left. Now that he's had training he can shoot the bullseye with my P2000. So now he's already thinking of a HK as his next gun. I should warn him about the bug! I already got him hooked on german car engineering.
Anyways, thanks for reading my longwinded thought process. Looking forward to learning from you guys!
V/R
Bill
Welcome to the site. I'm sorry but I hit the second paragraph and started flipping though the channels on the TV already...........
TAB Gear makes a great belt. I use a Galco IWB for CCW. Whatever you end up choosing, just make sure you practice your draw alot in different clothing so you can figure out what works and what doesn't.
Thanks for the welcome! Sorry for the chatty intro, just very much geeked about HK's at this point. As for the holsters, seems like you have to wait for all the popular ones. Will definately practice a lot once I get one.
Bill: Is the crossbreed comfortable, especially for long hours sitting? It looks like a large stiff piece of leather. What about wearing it in summer 100+ heat? Do you wear a shirt tucked in so it doesn't rub against your skin?
.408driver: Will check out TAB Gear. Which galco IWB are you using, is it the summer one? How do you like it so far? Does it shift at all when holstering/reholstering?
Bill: Is the crossbreed comfortable, especially for long hours sitting? It looks like a large stiff piece of leather. What about wearing it in summer 100+ heat? Do you wear a shirt tucked in so it doesn't rub against your skin?
.408driver: Will check out TAB Gear. Which galco IWB are you using, is it the summer one? How do you like it so far? Does it shift at all when holstering/reholstering?
^^^Leather is nice when you compare it to the newer kydex (plastic) holsters. Those things will make you sweat a ton if they are up against flesh. They are really nice for exterior wear though. Still there are hybrid kydex holsters which use a kydex shell and leather for where it will contact your body (the crossbreed holsters Bill references).
Unfortunately, I have not carried in a crossbreed. I am in a similar situation as yourself, I ordered a Milt Sparks VM2 holster but won't have it until sometime in July. So, I was thinking of a Crossbreed in the meantime. The horse hide model is supposed to help keep moisture off of the body. I know it is big, but from what I have read it is very comfortable (even in hot climates). I have carried a galco summer comfort with a Sig Sauer P229. However when I wear it behind the hip the butt sticks out something awful with just a shirt over it. No problems with a jacket as a cover garment. When only I wear a light shirt as cover I have to wear it just in front of my hip to conceal my pistol. I always wear my shirt out when I carry a IWB holster. As far as sitting, the only rig that does not sacrifice any comfort for me at all is a shoulder rig but only a jacket conceals it for me. But, remember that everyone is built different (I don't have an hourglass shape, lol). What works for me may not work for you and vice versa. A belly band may also be an option, and Galco makes a pretty good one. I have carried in a belly band as well, the drawback is that they are extremley hot and you will sweat like crazy in warm weather. The reason why a crossbreed came to mind is because I saw a few youtube videos of men and women carrying different pistols behind the hip, which is where I prefer to carry. And they were able to conceal with no problems at all. I think that the size of the horse hide panel will help with stability and in keeping the pistol close to your body. The crossbreed is also adjustable.Bill: Is the crossbreed comfortable, especially for long hours sitting? It looks like a large stiff piece of leather. What about wearing it in summer 100+ heat? Do you wear a shirt tucked in so it doesn't rub against your skin?
.408driver: Will check out TAB Gear. Which galco IWB are you using, is it the summer one? How do you like it so far? Does it shift at all when holstering/reholstering?
I hope this helps.
V/R
Bill
Welcome! I myself have been looking for an HK pistol for CCW. On the advice of folks here I checked out the USP compact in .45. I currently own a full size Kimber Classis Custom I with moderate mods done to it but want something more easily carried. I went to a local GS that rents guns but they didn't have a compact in.45 for rent. When I brough thtis up to the salesperson behind the counter SHE told me that's what she carried and asked if I would like to try it out. I did and after putting a box of ammo through it I KNOW I want one! Even with my big old meathooks for hands this fits well and was comfortable.
As for holsters I have a couple different ones that came with my Kimber, 2 leather, 1 nylon and 1 kydex. The nylon is my favorite since it is a full holster and fits well outside the pants on my belt in a comfortable position. The kydex is my least favorite, just plain uncomfortable. Personally I think I'm going to move to a shoulder rig. I just bought one for my Kimber from Bianchi (spell?) in leather and LOVE it.
As for holsters I have a couple different ones that came with my Kimber, 2 leather, 1 nylon and 1 kydex. The nylon is my favorite since it is a full holster and fits well outside the pants on my belt in a comfortable position. The kydex is my least favorite, just plain uncomfortable. Personally I think I'm going to move to a shoulder rig. I just bought one for my Kimber from Bianchi (spell?) in leather and LOVE it.
Welcome, you sound like a naughty girl - I like you already.... :wink:
With all your poker winnings, just go out and buy a plethora of HK's and carry which works best for you, they are all fun and addictive in wanting more. The nice thing about HK's is that unlike their German Ein Automobil brethren - is they are not maintenance whores and won't keep costing you money down the road, although they are constantly hungry, so you must pay to feed them to keep you both happy !!!!
Get that HK 45compact, and if you really want to scare your husband, get a HK 45ct (compact tactical) with the threaded barrel and tell him you want a suppressor next !!! :72:
This is what I'm talking about... NAUGHTY !!
Thats Sexy
With all your poker winnings, just go out and buy a plethora of HK's and carry which works best for you, they are all fun and addictive in wanting more. The nice thing about HK's is that unlike their German Ein Automobil brethren - is they are not maintenance whores and won't keep costing you money down the road, although they are constantly hungry, so you must pay to feed them to keep you both happy !!!!
Get that HK 45compact, and if you really want to scare your husband, get a HK 45ct (compact tactical) with the threaded barrel and tell him you want a suppressor next !!! :72:
This is what I'm talking about... NAUGHTY !!
Thats Sexy
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Welcome to the fun but potentially dangerous world of firearms (in more than one way) My suggestion is you stop talking about packing to your co workers or anyone else and keep it as a nice little surprise in case of emergency, that could save your life.. that and a good defensive driving course and some serious pistol self defense classes that emphasize firing from or around a car or other obstacles (cover and concealment)
Just saying that a gun is not a magical talisman, the operator behind it is more important, and one of your biggest potential advantages is the surprise element
Just saying that a gun is not a magical talisman, the operator behind it is more important, and one of your biggest potential advantages is the surprise element
Welcome to the real world! I commend your choice of weapons and am glad to see someone who knows quality and enjoys shooting. If you want to get a decent OWB holster which is nicely made and won't take 6 months, give Cotton a try. I can recommend the "pancake" style he makes as a comfortable fit to carry. He's a good guy, does nice work, is reasonably priced and can make what you need. Home I've had good luck dealing with him on a couple of orders.
You may decide to get a "plinker" at some point (semi-auto .22) to practice technique with. It's a good way to work on basics, is cheap, has little recoil and is fun as well. My personal choice is the P30L in 40 Smith, but it sounds like the 45c will be a decent choice for your needs.
Practice and improve. I'm glad you're taking some lessons early-on, as it's best to learn the right way on basics, then keep working to fine tune once you have things sorted out and working. Sounds like you're on the right path, so just keep at it! tim
You may decide to get a "plinker" at some point (semi-auto .22) to practice technique with. It's a good way to work on basics, is cheap, has little recoil and is fun as well. My personal choice is the P30L in 40 Smith, but it sounds like the 45c will be a decent choice for your needs.
Practice and improve. I'm glad you're taking some lessons early-on, as it's best to learn the right way on basics, then keep working to fine tune once you have things sorted out and working. Sounds like you're on the right path, so just keep at it! tim
Thanks for all the info guys, lots to look at and dream about (thx to Warpdrv). :wink:
I figure I'll be training for the rest of my life. Is there ever a reason to stop?
Blitzkrieg: No "co-workers" know I even like guns, work talk is all sports and stocks. CCW is my little secret, otherwise it's not really "concealed" is it? Love the class ideas, will look around for something like those. Although I did grow up in NJ, NY so defensive driving is my middle name, hehe.
I figure I'll be training for the rest of my life. Is there ever a reason to stop?
Blitzkrieg: No "co-workers" know I even like guns, work talk is all sports and stocks. CCW is my little secret, otherwise it's not really "concealed" is it? Love the class ideas, will look around for something like those. Although I did grow up in NJ, NY so defensive driving is my middle name, hehe.
I can not emphasize training enough. Train train train train train. Blitz here is right... Take some serious pistol self defense classes. I'm not talking NRA basic pistol. We mean actual self defense training. Good luck, and remember, TRAINING!Welcome to the fun but potentially dangerous world of firearms (in more than one way) My suggestion is you stop talking about packing to your co workers or anyone else and keep it as a nice little surprise in case of emergency, that could save your life.. that and a good defensive driving course and some serious pistol self defense classes that emphasize firing from or around a car or other obstacles (cover and concealment)
Just saying that a gun is not a magical talisman, the operator behind it is more important, and one of your biggest potential advantages is the surprise element
Don't worry, I decided to carry as an extra tool for self defense, not as a magic bullet so to speak. I'm just a beginner trying to learn, so I appreciate all your help.
As for the training blitz mentioned, is there a particular training company/course that is highly recommended? Or do I just look for something local? I figure there should be something in the southwest.
As for the training blitz mentioned, is there a particular training company/course that is highly recommended? Or do I just look for something local? I figure there should be something in the southwest.
The Crossbreed Supertuck or Comptac Mtac are very good hybrid holsters and are very comfortable for sitting or standing. $65 and a couple weeks wait max, and you should be good to go untill your VMII comes in. Great pistol. I have a P2000 9mm also, and feel more than adequate with it's ability to stop an attacker. Just get yourself some Speer 124 gr gold dot personal defense ammo and you will be fine.
Welcome to the forum. It'll be nice to have a ladies opinion and input around here.
Welcome to the forum. It'll be nice to have a ladies opinion and input around here.
Look for a local outfit which does various levels of training. Find an instructor you're comfortable with and take a couple of courses, just to learn what a proper shooting technique is. There are some excellent videos online, and some bad ones as well. If someone could post the link to the proper grip, stance, etc. I think it would help. There was a great one here, but I don't recall which thread it was in now and I can't find it.
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