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- Price: $1250
- Bore: Looks pretty great. Possible VERY shallow pitting in one of the grooves for well under an inch of it, or some especially tough carbon fouling, or me seeing things. Rest of the bore shines bright and rifling is about as good as any new gun I've ever seen.
- Function: As much of a PITA to cycle by hand as any other G3-pattern rifle. Feels exactly as it should as far as I know.
- Bolt Gap: 0.25-0.30mm
- Bolt head: Lots of staining. Hitting it with Flitz gun cleaner on Sunday when it comes in. Scrubbing the hell out of it with Hoppe's 9 and a brass brush does nothing anymore. Very shallow pitting, and probably hardly any deeper (if it indeed is any deeper) than the tooling marks on the bolt. To be felt, I had to run a cleaning pick over it and then I could feel increased roughness and resistance in dragging the pick at the pits.
- Bolt face: Lots of staining and some pitting, but doesn't appear much deeper than bolt head pitting.
- Chamber face: Good GOD what kind of hell it is to clean this without the right tool... Still messy and stained, also deeper pitting than on bolt head and face. Hope it won't impact anything. Need Flitz to clean off the staining but I feel that the pitting will be somewhat deeper here.
- Finish: Probably 90%-95%. Scuffs, dings, and scratches a little, but other than that in great shape I'd say.
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/2944/KJpfLz.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img921/7238/OWn9mY.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/5649/mGhtpX.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img924/6222/jqvweA.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img921/9307/mhx6dK.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img921/411/290Hbe.jpg
I picked this up for $1250 about a week ago. Given the price and what I knew to be the average going rate for a 91, I picked it up despite sticking my finger into the chamber area and having it come out dirty. It was on consignment, and the old fart who owned it apparently never bothered to clean it. Likely a 2 owner gun as he'd had it for 15 or so years while this gun's an IB date coded one. I was told that he was originally asking $1850 for it, but got talked down. He's old, has worsening Parkinson's, and is looking to dump a lot of his more demanding stuff since he can only shoot the lighter weapons at this point.
Brought it home and took a few passes at it cleaning, and the chamber face and that area of the receiver were utterly filthy, but it looks like the chamber itself and bore were more or less clean. What I have now is as pictured: That stuff WILL NOT come off. I have Flitz on the way to really get that crap off and see exactly what I'm dealing with. Haven't shot it yet.
Any idea on how much that pitting on the chamber face might affect shooting? The barrel is stamped "IBLU." I'm assuming that means 81, but what's the LU? Would it be a good idea to buy another bolt head along with some spare parts? If the bolt head isn't a matching date code but is one of the new German ones from HK parts would I help or hurt the value?
I'd been considering a PTR91 for a while, but that was on the backburner until I saw an HK91 for the price of a PTR. Given the condition, what'd I get myself into here, folks?
Thanks for reading and thanks for your help.
- Price: $1250
- Bore: Looks pretty great. Possible VERY shallow pitting in one of the grooves for well under an inch of it, or some especially tough carbon fouling, or me seeing things. Rest of the bore shines bright and rifling is about as good as any new gun I've ever seen.
- Function: As much of a PITA to cycle by hand as any other G3-pattern rifle. Feels exactly as it should as far as I know.
- Bolt Gap: 0.25-0.30mm
- Bolt head: Lots of staining. Hitting it with Flitz gun cleaner on Sunday when it comes in. Scrubbing the hell out of it with Hoppe's 9 and a brass brush does nothing anymore. Very shallow pitting, and probably hardly any deeper (if it indeed is any deeper) than the tooling marks on the bolt. To be felt, I had to run a cleaning pick over it and then I could feel increased roughness and resistance in dragging the pick at the pits.
- Bolt face: Lots of staining and some pitting, but doesn't appear much deeper than bolt head pitting.
- Chamber face: Good GOD what kind of hell it is to clean this without the right tool... Still messy and stained, also deeper pitting than on bolt head and face. Hope it won't impact anything. Need Flitz to clean off the staining but I feel that the pitting will be somewhat deeper here.
- Finish: Probably 90%-95%. Scuffs, dings, and scratches a little, but other than that in great shape I'd say.
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/2944/KJpfLz.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img921/7238/OWn9mY.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img924/5649/mGhtpX.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img924/6222/jqvweA.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img921/9307/mhx6dK.jpghttp://imageshack.com/a/img921/411/290Hbe.jpg
I picked this up for $1250 about a week ago. Given the price and what I knew to be the average going rate for a 91, I picked it up despite sticking my finger into the chamber area and having it come out dirty. It was on consignment, and the old fart who owned it apparently never bothered to clean it. Likely a 2 owner gun as he'd had it for 15 or so years while this gun's an IB date coded one. I was told that he was originally asking $1850 for it, but got talked down. He's old, has worsening Parkinson's, and is looking to dump a lot of his more demanding stuff since he can only shoot the lighter weapons at this point.
Brought it home and took a few passes at it cleaning, and the chamber face and that area of the receiver were utterly filthy, but it looks like the chamber itself and bore were more or less clean. What I have now is as pictured: That stuff WILL NOT come off. I have Flitz on the way to really get that crap off and see exactly what I'm dealing with. Haven't shot it yet.
Any idea on how much that pitting on the chamber face might affect shooting? The barrel is stamped "IBLU." I'm assuming that means 81, but what's the LU? Would it be a good idea to buy another bolt head along with some spare parts? If the bolt head isn't a matching date code but is one of the new German ones from HK parts would I help or hurt the value?
I'd been considering a PTR91 for a while, but that was on the backburner until I saw an HK91 for the price of a PTR. Given the condition, what'd I get myself into here, folks?
Thanks for reading and thanks for your help.
