Is it legal to own in CA or not
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if you are importing a "new to CA" tactical = NO
if you are PPT'ing a "unassault weapon" conversion from within the state = YES as long as the owner files with the DOJ / BOF that the offending pistol is now safe, prior to the PPT. or if the threaded barrel was removed from the weapon prior to 1-1-2000 and it was never reg'd as an AW...
confused yet!
personally the Elite or Expert a better pistol imho - and CA ok, though sadly not approved in 9mm
ok - just re-read your Q - are you coming into CA to be a resident with a tactical? if so, yes, you can remove the offending feature(s) and keep it.
if you are PPT'ing a "unassault weapon" conversion from within the state = YES as long as the owner files with the DOJ / BOF that the offending pistol is now safe, prior to the PPT. or if the threaded barrel was removed from the weapon prior to 1-1-2000 and it was never reg'd as an AW...
confused yet!
personally the Elite or Expert a better pistol imho - and CA ok, though sadly not approved in 9mm
ok - just re-read your Q - are you coming into CA to be a resident with a tactical? if so, yes, you can remove the offending feature(s) and keep it.
So if I have lived in CA for several years but failed to register it when first moved here I cannot register the gun now? I have it stored in Las Vegas but it has a non threaded barrel. Is it possible for me to register the gun now? If I can show them proof that I purchased it out of state before I moved to CA?
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i'm interested in this issue as well. i have a mark 23 and a tac .45 and might be moving to ca due to work. i believe i heard threaded barrels are not allowed there is that the case? am i able to bring these two weapons should i move?
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no, the best you can do if you want to enjoy the pistol on the other side the nevada curtain is to replace the bbl. the other option is to keep the factory bbl on and weld a device on the threads, a flash hider, thread protector, comp, etc. but that would make cleaning a PITA.
you can double check with DOJ / BOF - but the barn door done shut at the start of the new century for any new registration. don't feel too bad, I had a legally reg'd tac and SOLD IT out of state for cheap!! now that takes a low IQ
If it wasn't registered Jan 1, 2000, YOU ARE S.O.L. The only exemptions that I know is if you are military and currently stationed in California.
But since you failed to register it, the first thing you should do right now is remove the threaded barrel from the gun. As long as the threaded barrel is not on the gun, you are legal. Put the threaded barrel on the gun and you go to jail. Non-threaded barrels are legal.
But since you failed to register it, the first thing you should do right now is remove the threaded barrel from the gun. As long as the threaded barrel is not on the gun, you are legal. Put the threaded barrel on the gun and you go to jail. Non-threaded barrels are legal.
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Contact a professional FFL dealer in CA and see what they say. Remember..."PROFESSIONAL" FFL dealer.
I called the DOJ...and here is what the Lady told me over the phone. She said as long as the gun does not have the threaded barrel on the gun you can register it fine in CA. You cannot however, register it with the threaded barrel ever. So I am fine, I will just bring the gun into CA with a non threaded barrel and register it. She made it sound like it would not be a problem at all. She also advised to not bring the threaded barrel across into CA or have it anywhere near the gun for any reason. This is a big problem if the gun was able to interchange the barrel. So I am glad I called them up and got a response.
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Another reason not to move back to the People's Republic. My .45 Tac, USC, HK91 and a multitude of high capacity pistol magazines would all have to find new homes, or be butchered to meet their silly regulations and restrictions. At least in the socialist's paradise known as Washington State I can still collect and enjoy my firearms with minimal government intrusion. Not sure how long that will last though. California liberals are moving here in droves and the changing political climate is reflecting that. May have to move to Texas, Tennessee, or another gun friendly state to maintain my sanity and my firearms.
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the other option is to keep the factory bbl on and weld a device on the threads, a flash hider, thread protector, comp, etc. but that would make cleaning a PITA.
It would be more than a PITA.....you wouldn't be able to remove the barrel from the slide if you had something permanently mounted on the threads. Don't do that, you would only regret it.
Just get a Jarvis O-ring barrel (standard length), that is what I use when I travel , that way I am not sporting the "evil" threaded barrel in places where that may be a "no-no".
the other option is to keep the factory bbl on and weld a device on the threads, a flash hider, thread protector, comp, etc. but that would make cleaning a PITA.
It would be more than a PITA.....you wouldn't be able to remove the barrel from the slide if you had something permanently mounted on the threads. Don't do that, you would only regret it.
Just get a Jarvis O-ring barrel (standard length), that is what I use when I travel , that way I am not sporting the "evil" threaded barrel in places where that may be a "no-no".
Thanks for all the help on this issue. I will be keeping my gun and attempting to register it in CA without the threaded barrel and will let you guys know the end results. Worst case scenario I end up selling the gun and getting a standard USP.
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Its funny how much good and bad information you get on the forums. I have found its best to talk to someone directly involved in enforcing the laws.
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Unfortunately, those sources aren't always the best alternatives either. Try calling NYPD's Licensing division and get a straight answer on some licensing rules and I pretty much guarantee you will be transferred about 6-7 times and still not get a "correct" answer. I've been through this numerous times on several pistol purchases. I've been told flat out "NO" that I can't own or possess certain things, yet I put in a purchase order request and it is granted to me for that very item. Go figure.
Try calling the CA DOJ or LE about OLL AR's. Everyone who has been arrested by LE for one has had the charges dropped in court after you pay about $20,000 to your lawyer.
If you call the CA DOJ 10 times and talk to 10 different persons, you will get 10 different answers.
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+1.
OP, what part of CA are you moving to? If you're around Los Angeles, let's go shoot!
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You mean like a local police officer? They are full of misinformation as well when it comes to stuff that is out of the ordinary for them. There are 3 cops at the gym I go to, all of them at least 15 year veterans. None of them knew it was legal for me to own an MP5. They all thought only FFLs could own auto weapons.
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