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Is it possible to remove the safety on a USPc?
I've decided to get one in .45 and the only thing I don't care for on them is the safety. Is it possible to remove? If so, how? Is it something simple enough I could do myself?
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Let me google that for you
Funny how that first hit just comes around full circle isn't it? Not to mention I looked through quite a few of those links and haven't seen my question answered. Here's a thought - we're on a Hk discussion forum. How about we discuss Hk and be helpful to one another yeah?
Not really. That crap does annoy me thoughKevin is sensitive.
Can you give me some more detail about what exactly a LEM trigger is? I've seen it mentioned quite a lot but I'm not exactly sure what specifically it is aside from an upgrade. I have a P30 V3, does it have the LEM trigger?
I wish I could help But I am just starting to look into it myself but from what I get it completely removes the safety and you will have a lighter trigger No decock or safety .I hope someone that has one will chime in I hear it is the was to go for CCW .I carry My weapon Cocked and locked like a 1911 so the first shot it with the SA pull if the LEM does this I might be going down that road there are a ton of youtube videos of reviews on the LEM trigger it does give you a light 4.5-5 pound pull or the option for the 7.5-8 pound pull
Good lord you're really helpless.
Here. I went and found the exact post for you, because it was so difficult to find by trying different words in the search bar: http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/142924-variant-1-variant-3-a.html#post1057611
Search bar. It works. As for LEM, there really are a million threads explaining that, unicorns and all.
If you ever need a "how-to" or "what parts?" remember to check the Reference sub-forum. Lots of stuff in there.
Here. I went and found the exact post for you, because it was so difficult to find by trying different words in the search bar: http://www.hkpro.com/forum/hk-handgun-talk/142924-variant-1-variant-3-a.html#post1057611
Search bar. It works. As for LEM, there really are a million threads explaining that, unicorns and all.
If you ever need a "how-to" or "what parts?" remember to check the Reference sub-forum. Lots of stuff in there.
USP and USPc variants explained Heckler & Koch - USA
LEM (Law Enforcement Modification) Trigger
Developed especially for the U.S. government, the Law Enforcement Modification (or LEM for short), is a USP DAO (Double-Action Only) model with a unique trigger mechanism. This mechanism improves the double action trigger performance and reduces the weight of the DAO trigger pull to 7.5–8.5 pounds-force (33–38 N), uses a stronger hammer spring, and shortens the trigger reset. Aside from the LEM mechanism, it is identical to the USP Variant 7 (DAO) model.
Developed especially for the U.S. government, the Law Enforcement Modification (or LEM for short), is a USP DAO (Double-Action Only) model with a unique trigger mechanism. This mechanism improves the double action trigger performance and reduces the weight of the DAO trigger pull to 7.5–8.5 pounds-force (33–38 N), uses a stronger hammer spring, and shortens the trigger reset. Aside from the LEM mechanism, it is identical to the USP Variant 7 (DAO) model.
So I'm assuming the USP and USPc variants are the same? There is no way to have a DA/SA without a safety or decocking lever? I really have no use for either but I guess a V3 would be the way to go if I have to have oneUSP and USPc variants explained Heckler & Koch - USA
I thought that sounded familiar. I wrote it off when I firts heard about it because I prefer DA/SA and the LEM is DAO. Or is it the LEM is a DAO but it feels like it has the short reset of a DA/SA? I really need to pull the trigger on one of thoseLEM (Law Enforcement Modification) Trigger
Developed especially for the U.S. government, the Law Enforcement Modification (or LEM for short), is a USP DAO (Double-Action Only) model with a unique trigger mechanism. This mechanism improves the double action trigger performance and reduces the weight of the DAO trigger pull to 7.5–8.5 pounds-force (33–38 N), uses a stronger hammer spring, and shortens the trigger reset. Aside from the LEM mechanism, it is identical to the USP Variant 7 (DAO) model.
So you really want a SA pistol with neither safety nor decocker?
You'll shoot yer eye out!
You'll shoot yer eye out!
yeah it seems the DAO are the only one that have what you are looking for
You really think you need it? I look at it as having one more lever I might accidentally flip in the heat of the moment. I'm not all that concerned with it I was just curiousSo you really want a SA pistol with neither safety nor decocker?
You'll shoot yer eye out!
I honestly don't know if there is a way to do what you want. You'd have to ask someone more knowledgeable than I.So I'm assuming the USP and USPc variants are the same? There is no way to have a DA/SA without a safety or decocking lever? I really have no use for either but I guess a V3 would be the way to go if I have to have one
I carry cocked and Locked don't think I would want to not be able to put it on safety and decock that seems to easy for a ND I installed a 3.5 on my Glock and under stress training it was really easy to fire and not mean to. I took the out on the spotSo you really want a SA pistol with neither safety nor decocker?
You'll shoot yer eye out!
I have a USPc .40 LEM...its my carry gun...my ONLY carry gun...
The trigger group is going to p*ss you off if you are coming from Varient 1...it takes dedication to learn how to shoot your gun all over again because of the feel of the break and the break-weight...
I shoot IDPA with it...I have engaged more than one troublesome raccoon with it...Its second nature now and its ALL I will carry...
That being said, please don't take this the wrong way, but HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DO THE CONVERSION...this is going to be the simplest and safest course of action; before you get offended allow me to elaborate--you are obviously a newcomer to the HK platform (not knowing about the LEM option was the give-away...its an HK exclusive reference term) and not understanding how the trigger operates is the surest way to f*ck up a $1000 pistol...
there are any number of ways to get the conversion accomplished, but I think that's a good topic to practice with the search bar on now that you have the info you need
The trigger group is going to p*ss you off if you are coming from Varient 1...it takes dedication to learn how to shoot your gun all over again because of the feel of the break and the break-weight...
I shoot IDPA with it...I have engaged more than one troublesome raccoon with it...Its second nature now and its ALL I will carry...
That being said, please don't take this the wrong way, but HAVE A PROFESSIONAL DO THE CONVERSION...this is going to be the simplest and safest course of action; before you get offended allow me to elaborate--you are obviously a newcomer to the HK platform (not knowing about the LEM option was the give-away...its an HK exclusive reference term) and not understanding how the trigger operates is the surest way to f*ck up a $1000 pistol...
there are any number of ways to get the conversion accomplished, but I think that's a good topic to practice with the search bar on now that you have the info you need
LEM FTW.
I converted my V1 USPc .45, loved it so much I bought a P2000SK in LEM and those are my carry guns.
Used to be a cocked-and-locked guy, and also have carried DAO, but I'll never go back to either for carry.
No extraneous levers, no need to de-cock, no danger of ND when trying to ride down the hammer to de-cock under stress, no safety to remember to disengage under stress, consistent light trigger pull every shot, short reset for quick follow-up shots (with training), long enough trigger pull to "feel safer" than SA, physical hammer that moves like DAO that you can put your thumb on when holstering to ensure no trigger-snag-induced ND's.
Think of LEM as a "light DAO", trigger action is most similar to many striker-fired pistols, but the gun has a physical hammer than you can see move, and that you can block with your thumb.
I converted my V1 USPc .45, loved it so much I bought a P2000SK in LEM and those are my carry guns.
Used to be a cocked-and-locked guy, and also have carried DAO, but I'll never go back to either for carry.
No extraneous levers, no need to de-cock, no danger of ND when trying to ride down the hammer to de-cock under stress, no safety to remember to disengage under stress, consistent light trigger pull every shot, short reset for quick follow-up shots (with training), long enough trigger pull to "feel safer" than SA, physical hammer that moves like DAO that you can put your thumb on when holstering to ensure no trigger-snag-induced ND's.
Think of LEM as a "light DAO", trigger action is most similar to many striker-fired pistols, but the gun has a physical hammer than you can see move, and that you can block with your thumb.
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