I kid you not....I submitted a MARK 23 KAC can stamp on April 14th. So of course, like the anxious little kid I am, I start calling September 14th....at 5 months hoping for early magic. The automated message is, " WE ARE AT 6 MONTH WAIT TIMES.....etc." So October first I call, same message. Okay, n.b.d. 6 months, only 2 weeks left. So I call on October 14th......6 months exactly, right? Well, the new message is, " CURRENT WAIT TIMES ARE 8 MONTHS ! " Just got it out of jail last week (trust form). So yes, 8+ months it seems.