[c_zielsdorf]

I was wondering about the trigger system in the HK pistols and wondered if they have ever considered doing an LEM with SA hybrid.
LEM as the DA first pull, with SA thereafter.
Seems to me that it would be a good compromise.
Is anything like this available?

 

[Win_nut]

Well, it actually already does in a way. It is double action only with the hammer spring being compressed, dropping the overall pull weight.

 

[nimslow]

That's kinda what the LEM is all about. Long take up on the first pull (similar to DA), with a short reset, and short take up (SA, if you "ride the reset"). Let the trigger all the way out, and you are back to "long, but not real heavy take up" sorta DA.

 

[JooJooBurger]

I suppose I'm not fully understanding the question. My understanding is that LEM, all the pull weights are the same. The first trigger pull is a DA pull with the SA weight, and everything else subsequent is like a traditional SA.

If I'm wrong, I'm definitely interested in the answer. I plan to buy a brand new V7 USP 9 FS as well as a match trigger to make it have a Match Hybrid LEM. I see a decent deal out there for around 840 shipped.

 

[Barth]

I agree that Light LEM is to me already a Hybrid SA.
My HK45c LEM was gunsmith measured at 3.9 lbs.
Personally, I stage the first shot and ride the reset for follow ups.
Very fast and very light.
My FS USP guns are Match LEM Hybrid - The Voodoo Trigger

 

[c_zielsdorf]

Okay, that's all good to know. So is the light lem or match lem the way to go in a uspc 45?

 

[TooSixy-closed]

Okay, that's all good to know. So is the light lem or match lem the way to go in a uspc 45?

Match LEM Hybrid trigger won't do your compact any good. Stick with Light LEM.

 

[Barth]

Match LEM Hybrid trigger won't do your compact any good. Stick with Light LEM.

+1
Have Light LEM in my USP Compact SS 45.
It's a sweet trigger :biggrin:

 

[Austin1776]

You can also just carry a DA/SA cocked and locked so you always have a SA trigger.

 

[Bucky]

I believe I understand perfectly what the OP is saying, and have thought about it myself. The first pull being your traditional LEM, but when you release the trigger after the first shot, the hammer and trigger remain rearward. Of course you'd need a mechanism to return trigger / hammer forward for carry mode.

 

[presspics]

I'd recommend running the LEM the way it comes until you get used to it. I personally prefer the heavy LEM on my guns since they are all carry guns.

 

[YVK]

I believe I understand perfectly what the OP is saying, and have thought about it myself. The first pull being your traditional LEM, but when you release the trigger after the first shot, the hammer and trigger remain rearward. Of course you'd need a mechanism to return trigger / hammer forward for carry mode.

That's how I understood it too. I think it would've been pretty neat but it doesn't exist.

 

[TooSixy-closed]

I believe I understand perfectly what the OP is saying, and have thought about it myself. The first pull being your traditional LEM, but when you release the trigger after the first shot, the hammer and trigger remain rearward. Of course you'd need a mechanism to return trigger / hammer forward for carry mode.

And why would anyone want the hammer to remain rearward? So that you can decock? If that's the sole reason, then the spurred LEM hammer in V0 is the answer.

V4.1CH helps keep the trigger back, almost like a SA.

 

[bpnkrtn]

I'd recommend running the LEM the way it comes until you get used to it. I personally prefer the heavy LEM on my guns since they are all carry guns.

I believe the light LEM is 4.5 lbs. ... what is the weight of the "heavy" LEM please?

 

[TooSixy-closed]

I believe the light LEM is 4.5 lbs. ... what is the weight of the "heavy" LEM please?

7.5 to 8.5 lbs, depending on which gun you're looking at.

 

[bpnkrtn]

7.5 to 8.5 lbs, depending on which gun you're looking at.

Thanks!

 

[Bucky]

And why would anyone want the hammer to remain rearward? So that you can decock? If that's the sole reason, then the spurred LEM hammer in V0 is the answer.

V4.1CH helps keep the trigger back, almost like a SA.

Don't know what V4.1CH is?

 

[JooJooBurger]

Not to hijack, but quick question. Gonna do a Match Hybrid LEM USP 9 here soon. Is it possible to use the spurred match hammer for an LEM? I'm thinking no, but just want to confirm. Cheers.

 

[Exiledviking]

Don't know what V4.1CH is?

http://www.hkpro.com/forum/showthread.php?t=255329

 

[Bucky]

P2000 v3 to v4.1CH LEM

Well, that didn't really tell me what it is, just how to do it. But I googled it and am intrigued. I'd have to imagine it would be even easier to convert an existing LEM (V2) to the 4.1??