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As I read the various information on the LEM trigger system it is pointed out that the long pre-travel is an an important part of its "safety" system. I have a V1 P30. I'm learning it ... slowly. The trigger pull seems a bit light for carry defensive use, for me anyway. I have been reading about the V4.1 LEM, which takes the pull up to 6 pounds +/-. And it reduces the trigger pre-travel by a third ... which would over-ride part of the safety aspects ... if indeed that is true.

I could use some "educating" about this please.
 

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I also have a P30L in V1, and I frankly have no problem with carrying the weapon as it is; I consider the relatively long trigger travel before it hits the break wall to be quite sufficient. And while the reset is a bit longer than that on my VP40, it's not bad at all either.

I find it difficult under stress to shoot from the reset per se. At any rate it's short enough on my V1 as to where short-stroking is not a concern.

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The one-third thing is frankly underwhelming. The reduction is there, it's just now as big as one would think. It is an ergonomic change mostly, changes trigger finger position and initial travel direction, that's it.
Not sure about a sentiment on V1 being too light but I presume it is an individual preference. I've had my LEMs set from 4 to 7 lbs and I have never been able to find out how 5, 6 or 7 lbs are better.
 

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I have a few Sigs with DA/SA and prefer that over striker. The LEM is a good compromise for me. The more I shoot it the more I like it. About to buy P30 with LEM. And Sigs have the best DA/SA...my opinion.
 

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You can buy springs for under twenty bucks and change the version to your heart's content. My P2000SK started off life as a V2. That was too heavy for my liking. So I changed it to a V1, which I thought was too light. Then, like Goldilocks, I changed it too a V4 and thought it was "just right." After getting used to the LEM, I went back to V1. This is now my favorite trigger for a carry gun, over a traditional 1911, Glock, or Sig-style DA/SA. Buy the springs, experiment, and decided for yourself what is best.
 

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Related to topic but not about reset/springs.....any insight is appreciated.

I have 45C I had HK convert from V1 to V7 and an HK45 that was V7 when purchased NIB.

Do you 'decock' the LEM by holding thumb over hammer to dampen its release, or just not have one in chamber if want the 'heavy' DA first pull?

I'm a newb, I admit it, thanks in advance.
 

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Do you 'decock' the LEM by holding thumb over hammer to dampen its release, or just not have one in chamber if want the 'heavy' DA first pull
Decock a LEM with a bobbed hammer using your thumb is a big no-no.

You won't ever have a first DA pull in a LEM. You will have to chamber a round if one is not already in the chamber, when you're ready to shoot, and by racking the slide to load it, it is now SA. The only time that you would have a DA pull is when you have a light strike or dud, and because the round is already chambered, you just pull again.
 

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Decock a LEM with a bobbed hammer using your thumb is a big no-no.

You won't ever have a first DA pull in a LEM. You will have to chamber a round if one is not already in the chamber, when you're ready to shoot, and by racking the slide to load it, it is now SA. The only time that you would have a DA pull is when you have a light strike or dud, and because the round is already chambered, you just pull again.
That's what I thought, I read on some internet forums some folks rode the hammer to 'decock' sounded pretty iffy, so came to the HKPros to inquire.

For storage, confirmed empty of course, do you ride hammer to take tension off spring, or just pull the trigger? Not like gets lots of long term storage, as it's too much fun to shoot, but I generically like to keep springs unsprung when not in use.

Thanks again, Happy New Year, All
 
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